OT: CalExit

Aren't you the one under-estimating people? If you put out food for the bears, does that make the bears more independent, more diligent foragers, or do they take advantage of the food you put out?

Do they then eat less than their fill? Leave any behind?

Or do the bears, once habituated, even start arriving before feeding time to get a better share?

*Bears* adapt, maximize their advantage, and even plan.

I think we agree on what actually happens with bears. So, the question becomes "What makes you think people are less intelligent, less able to plan their affairs than bears?"

(And in fact, in a free enterprise society, each person maximizing his own good is a *good* thing--maximizes the "greater good". Each person maximizing the yield from his garden (free enterprise) benefits the person and the whole society--there's more food. Not true under socialism, where, rather than produce, people are encouraged to take from other people's gardens.)

The fact they're doing it means they applied and were accepted, which shows they not only wanted and preferred it, but sought it out.

at least not "normal" people. Do you think it's fun? Does

Why do the bears keep coming back? Are they "happier" on public assistance?

But you're assuming, again.

I see the poor on a daily basis. They drive newer cars than I, and have satellite links to giant TVs in their Section-8 subsidized houses. And they're watching that TV, often.

I see their trash bins, full of beer and soda cans, cigarette, convenience and take-out food boxes, costing 5x the cost of simple home-cooking.

Some are in my extended family.

Poor people make poor choices.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat
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I think it's frightening that you think it's okay to take other people's food, or worse, to have a thug government do it for you.

Socialism = law of the jungle.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

They didn't get wealthy off of socialism--that's like crediting a tall person's cancer for that person being tall.

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Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

No need. The genius of our system was enabling a large collection of different peoples to live as one, while respecting their rights to regional differences in different states.

The reason California's in a fit is intolerance--they can't abide the idea of other states choosing to live differently.

They're a fine idea among peoples with basically compatible ideals, customs, and a common language. E pluribus unum.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

I know quite a few people who are dumber than bears, and some of them post to this newsgroup.

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Cursitor Doom

s/wealth/cotton/, and this quote could've been from any slave-holding plantation-owner of the old South.

The philosophy hasn't changed.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

Yup, that's me too.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

Thanks for spray painting my monitor with coffee. Again.

(The weird thing to me is people trying to style themselves 'compassionate' for doing to their 'lesser' fellows that which they would not do to an animal.)

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

That second graph stops before the massive-immigration era.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

lunatic fringe electronics
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John Larkin

True. And we can expect an effect--either positive or negative, depending on the work-culture of the migrants--after that.

The full article's here:

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Dan Mitchell's a genius, a great guy, and an international treasure.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

It sure looks like the time constant for the effects of government policy is measured in generations.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

lunatic fringe electronics
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John Larkin

You just answered your own question. Leftists see wild animals as being superior to humans and their "_lesser_" humans as sub-human. You might consider that weird but leftists are *that* weird.

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krw

No leftist that I know thinks that, but any leftist who would willingly spend time with krw and listen to his silly ideas would have to be very weird indeed.

Krw does seem to spend a lot of time inventing straw men, and the leftist who thinks that wild animals are superior to human beings does seem to be one of those inventions.

He might be misunderstanding Rousseau's "noble savage"

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but noble savages aren't wild animals, but primitve people who live in tribal groups, and got heavily idealised by people who didn't know much about them.

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bill.sloman

Those are non-competitive by government decree. The providers are very pallsy with the regulators.

ISPs are numerous and competitive here.

I expect mixed results from that.

Why are they, and a lot of management at banks and brokerages, not in prison? VW killed people. Wells Fargo committed massive fraud. If you or I did 1% as much harm, we'd be in prison for life.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

lunatic fringe electronics
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John Larkin

Certainly they do. The electric company has competition from the gas company. The cable company has competition from satellite...

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krw

Do you really think it is realistic to have two sets of electricity cables and water pipes and CATV lines to/from your dwelling. Or two sets of rail lines between here and there?

No; it won't happen, for good economic reasons. They /are/ /natural/ monopolies.

Then why do I see so many people complaining about Comcast/Verizon/whoever? From what I can make out, many can't move.

There will be points of light, but there will be far more areas of blackness. Already Ford and GM are leaving, and the Japanese are only not-leaving-yet due to unspecified "you won't lose out" guarantees from the government.

The finserv sector will decant to Paris/Frankfurt unless they keep their "passporting" arrangements.

Simple point... The UK's GDP is 3% or world GDP. If you were a businessman, would you concentrate your efforts on the diminishing uncertain contrary

3%, or on the growing 97%?

Just so.

That's an example of why I fear such unaccountable people and their corporations. At least I/we can kick out politicians.

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Tom Gardner

That was in a Steel and Paper town in SW Ohio, in the '60s & '70s. The last I heard, most of the paper mills are decaying eyesores, and the jobs long gone. That city is spending money to tear down abandoned businesses and homes. They have also torn down many of the school buildings.

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They don't get even. 

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Michael A. Terrell

Chillicothe OH, coincidentally? I spent some time there in 80's.

Regards, Mikko

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mikkivir

ANNE: Villain, thou know?st not law of God nor man. No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity.

RICHARD: But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

-Richard III

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bitrex

Middletown.

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They don't get even. 

They go for over unity! ;-)
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Michael A. Terrell

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