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It's how I'm working with some clients right now, Jörg. And I'm not finding a problem. There are a few smaller clients I completely trust and I wouldn't bother imposing this on them. But this is especially important for larger companies, with separate and often unfathomable "payables aging" policies that can be very ornery at times.

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So find some evidence to prove your claim. Your convictions in this area don't seem to be founded on anything that looks like real world data.

On account of it is now somewhat larger than the U.K. 300 million US citizens educated to roughly the same level as 60 million UK citizens represent five times the productive capacity.

This wasn't true back in 1776, but the US had more space to expand into, and managed to get big before anybody else could get any kind of grip on the periphery - the French sold off their bit of the periphery, and the Spanish lost California and Texas ...

I don't think that American attitudes to taxation are anything like as important as land area and population. China seems to be well on the way to trumping the US, and I doubt if the Laffer curve will be of any relevance there, either.

You aren't a particularly high tax country when compared with other advanced industrial nations.

You do have this enthusiasm for spending a ridiculous proportion of your tax income on the military-industrial complex, and short-changing the population on health care and education, which does seem to make it unlikely that you will remain an advanced industrial nation for all that much longer, but you aren't delining all that rapidly.

None of this says anything about the validity of the Laffer curve as a device for setting tax levels - it certainly didn't work for Regan or Bush, but reactionary idiots don't care about evidence.

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I cited the Regan and Bush tax cuts, which were supposed to increase the US take - according to the Laffer curve. They decreased it.

What's your evidence. Granting that your head semms to be firmly jammed up your fundament, its your head that is immersed in "not sand".

The US now has five times the population of the UK. This does give them a certain economic advantage, no matter how badly they run their economy.

With most of the money being spend on your military-industrial complex, to the sole advantage of the industrialists who bribe your politicians to keep on wasting tax-payer's money on a defence force that isn't doing anything remoely useful or profitable.

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The idiot krw says that I've said that the laffer curve doesn't exist, whereas I've just said that it does exist, but is misinterpreted by right-wing nitwits - of whom krw is a prize example.

If krw had enough sense to realise what he was saying, he'd be a liar.

A claim that is as reliable as anything else that krw posts.

Nice see you signing up so rapidly as a prize example of the the in- educatable Republican.

If I'd wanted to lampoon the species I couldn't have come up with better examples of mindless idiocy.

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Lucky you :-)

Yes, larger companies sometimes have slow accounting processes. But they also have a P.O. process which can make retainers next to impossible.

In general I haven't found payment willingness to be a problem. Sometimes it takes a few reminders but so far no big issues.

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You're a well known liar, Slowman. ...as well known as DimBulb is known to be AlwaysWrong.

What a liar, Slowman. You haven't said one straight thing today.

Truth hurts, doesn't it Slowman.

No, you're the asshole socialist. Of course anything to the right of Karl Marx must be wrong.

Don't look in the mirror. You'll scare that pig out of your chest, Slowman.

The exodus of Californian companies is _the_ proof. It started many years ago. Look at the statistics box, it's based on reports by moving companies. If anyone knows the truth it's them:

Actually this was corroborated to me by a trucker, he said they had a real problem because they often must dead-head home, no load. This guys was around 60 and trucking since his 20's. He knows.

Bill, it's time to face reality here. GDP is generally measured per capita. Here's a dose of reality, three sources and I assume two of them might fall into your (sometimes rather narrow) acceptance angle:

It is only relevant in countries where you are free to move, and that includes freedom to move outside the country. Then the Laffer curve is tremendously relevant.

Fact is, right now many people are stuck in their homes because selling is hard or impossible. Else we'd see a whole lot more Laffer-related moves.

Reagan was a great president and the results he got were proof. But I see you don't understand that or don't want to because it goes against your political grain.

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Then they have to change those policies or find someone else or else mod the contract so that payment schedules are sufficiently iron clad, with penalties, so that they are "encouraged" more than mere spoken words might do.

Agreed. But, for example, Lockheed took almost three quarters to pay their invoices, for a far too long period of time. Despite my reminders to their payables that "I'm not a bank." I'm really no longer interested in working like that. It's not about willingness -- they were always willing to pay.

Well, sometimes that is enough and sometimes it really helps to have the retainer in hand, first. Don't get me wrong, though. My suggestion wasn't meant to be taken as the only way to go, or as a panacea for all situations. It was only intended as a possibility worth some consideration from time to time. It's another tool among many.

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A year or so ago Lockheed bought SAVI Technologies (an RFID tag company).

Payments suddenly stretched out... until their engineer called one day and asked how their project was going. When I informed him that I had notified accounts payable a month ago that his project was on hold until payments caught up the fit hit the shan. Then I got payments wired into my bank 10 days after invoice rendering :-) ...Jim Thompson

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The "exodus" from California has nothing to do with the Laffer curve, and everything to do with the rising price of California real estate. Companies stopped expanding in California thirty years ago, because their employees couldn't afford the local house prices - my wife knocked back an academic job at UCLA for exactly that reason back then, and the semiconductor industry started expanding outside of California at the same time for exactly the same reason.

This hollowed out the employment market. The Laffer curve had nothing to do with it.

More right-wing nonsense from the Hearland Institute of all place. Do you expect this kind if self-serving right wing propaganda to be taken seriously?

Have you never heard of the economies of scale? The rule of thumb is that a ten-fold increase in market halves the manufacturing cost for any given item. In the UK - with 20% of the US domestic market - it costs more per head to provide the same sort of goods and services, which shows up in the statistics as lower productivity per head. The European Community is struggling to unify markets across Europe to take advantage of this well known fact, but it isn't working as fast as the economists would like.

The Laffer Curve is just one more example of right-wing pseudo- economics,that justifies distorting the economy to the advanatge of the rich and powerful. Since real economies are all well down on the left-had side of the Laffer curver, where increasing taxes make more money for the taxing authority, it is - on fact signularly irrelevant as anything except misleading political propaganda.

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You might not have noticed, but the US property bubble burst a few years ago, leaving lots of people owing more on their homes than the house would actualy sell for, as well as taking a lot of money out of the economy. Times are bad all over - people would like to move to someplace with jobs, but since they can't sell their houses, they don't get to find out that there aren't any places with jobs to move to. This isn't Laffer-related, just business as usual in a recession.

Regan was an adequate actor. It is a pity that the guys who wrote his lines didn't have a better idea of the way the economy worked, and wasted so much of their time trying to destroy the few trade unions that the US had left.

The Heartland Institute likes to make absurd claims about his performance, but once you get away from right-wing propaganda machines, he's seen as another right-wing nitwit.

Since you support your points by quoting particularly partisan right- wing political propaganda, you own political "grain" is entirely obvious. See if you can find some "evidence" isn't quite so obviously biased along your own political grain.

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Bill, I hate to say that but you are completely wrong about that. I know it, I _live_ here. The house we bought in 1997 cost about the same amount of money that our German one sold for.

I know it is correct.

Haven't they heard about the word "export"? How do you imagine Hong Kong got up there? Are 200 million wealthy consumers living there?

Yeah, the usual, when the arguments fizzle it's either "all right-wing baloney" or in the AGW case it goes ad hominem. But we've become rather resilient there :-)

Don't turn the arguments around. People _want_ to do Laffer-related moves but they can't. I could and eventually might but it wouldn't make much sense right now.

You clearly have no clue about what Reagan achieved.

Ah yes, I see, in your opinion the IMF and the world bank are spewing right-wing propanada. Oh man, Bill, wake up ...

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krw doesn't seem to know what the word "liar" means. He clearly thinks that anybody who puts forward an opinion that he doesn't agree with is a "liar". He doesn't go to the trouble of working out what has actually been said - above he claims that I said "that the laffer curve doesn't exist" whereas what I've said is that the usual right wing use of the Laffer curve to justifiy lowering tax rates in based on a misconception - so in fact he himself is lying.

It's a pity that krw doesn't realise how foolish this claim is.

Conceivably, but since krw obviously cannot tell the difference between truth and lies, this is happens to be entirely irrelevant.

krw seems to share with Goebbels the delusion that a lie repeated sufficiently often will be accepted as true.

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Whereas you don't beleive anything published by anything to the left of Heartland Institute. I'll skip the character analysis - you clearly don't have any character worth analysing.

Really? You are silly enough to call me a liar while lying about what I actually posted - when that was included in the text that you ended up posting. This exhibits a degree of intellectual incompetence that is impossible to beat.

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And how close is your house to any semiconductor factory or university?

You are as bad as krw. Right-wing propaganda isn't any kind of evidence. You may want to think that it is correct, but it was written to satisfy that kind of irrational wish.

If you want to produce persuasive evidence, find a ess obviously biased source.

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"Laffer related"? People want to move to someplace where they think there are jobs. Since they can't move, they don't do the work to find out that there aren't any such places.

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He got re-elected while exhibiting clear signs of early Alzheimer's disease. Brian Butterworth - a UK psychologist - analysed his relection speeches and found clear evidence of early Alzheimers. This findign was picked up by the UK press at the time.

Since all Regan was doing was reading his scripts, the fact that his brain was going down the toilet didn't make much difference to his performance as a president, which - after all - depended on his puppet masters, with perhaps a bit of help from the astrologers that Nancy called in.

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I didn't disgree with the IMF and the World Bank data, I merely adduced economy of scale as an explanation of the difference between US and UK productivity - to my mind a much more plausible explanation than Joerg's invocation of the Laffer curve.

Presumably Jim Thompson's wife could use this information. Jim hasn't posted anything that indicates any kind of working brain for years now. He can still remember old triumphs in electronics, but there's a shortage of fresh insights.

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About 100 miles. If you want to work at a semi fab you can also live in Idaho or Texas. Houses there cost a lot less than in your country.

... or university?

About 25 miles.

Sorry but I don't have time for this, since I am sure you'd reject pretty much any link I would bring the time would be wasted anyhow.

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You're assuming that he has a brain, to wake. :(

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Don't be too sure, Joerg.

Bear in mind that the likes of you, Phil, and Jim are a scarce and diminishing resource.

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