Off Topic; The downfall of the US.

Simple. Take it out of your pocket, buy junk food or recreational drugs, and replace the cash with an IOU.

Know the difference between an alcoholic and a drug addict? An alcoholic will borrow your last ten bucks and spend it on booze. A drug addict will borrow your last ten bucks, spend it on drugs, and help you look for it. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise
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Decide to print more later?

Grant.

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Grant

You're full of shit. The death toll in Japan after WWII has always been known and has always been correct. It was 200,000 direct casualties, and the numbers after have also been compiled and reported on.

The days of missing information from history books (missing not lies)were gone long ago, and your memories of YOUR schooling are certainly not valid in the modern US Elementary classroom.

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MrTallyman

That's the portion they hold in US treasuries. They divested roughly

10% last year. (I'm not sure what they've done since.)

It's quite a lot compared to the federal gov't's ~$2.2 trillion in annual income. If they (China, Japan, UK...) asked for it back, we couldn't pay it.

That's the SS "trust fund." They spent the money and gave IOUs in return. That means they promise to pay it back in the future. How? With taxes. Where do they get those taxes? From you.

So, they've promised to a) make you pay yourself back (in the future) to b) pay for c) them giving your SS (retirement savings) to other people. Or something like that.

It's brilliant. The more we each pay ourselves the richer we'll be, and we can pay ourselves interest.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

Much better. The baer idiot has a bent perspective. You got it right on the money.

They enslaved the Philippine people for years BEFORE they invaded Pearl as well.

Because we were not buying what? They didn't have radios back then.

Oh.. Because we were not happy with their "empire expansion plans".

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MrTallyman

They can't foreclose--they'd just lose their investment. OTOH we can't frighten them on that account, since we still need more and more of their money.

IOW, the Chinese have us in a Mexican standoff.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

You have obviously missed the point.

You really have no concept of NOT losing the labor and existing data, while keeping a lid on it at the same time? I find that amazing.

They let you grow.

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MrTallyman

The Japanese invaded the Philippines on 8 Dec 1941

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Dirk

http://www.neopax.com/technomage/ - My new book - Magick and Technology
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

So, all those nations that have began to be automobile manufacturers (when they were not previously), and all their commercials for their cars on MY TV channels have nothing to do with "it working well"? It has certainly worked quite well for just about every player I can think of that ever entered the game. Thailand makes IC chips and hard drives, which we all use. Even though we don't see their commercials, we certainly use their products. Looks like free enterprise and capitalism works to me. Just as described.

You're a goddamned idiot, Sloman.

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MrTallyman

You are clueless, and couldn't count beans if your life depended on it.

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MrTallyman

Except that their entry into the realm is a cheat.

Communists are NOT allowed to play on the world economic market because of their modus operandi.

They spew guns into the world, and pirated CDs DVDs and IC chips too.

They need to operate under the same rules and govern the same way to claim winning the same game.

We will, as usual, wait again to be smitten before we respond.

As it stands, all your numbers are skewed because those nations among us that do not cheat pay HUGE costs back into our nation, and we do it without operating as a communist regime.

This "It's all good" mentality is pretty goddamned lame. China owes the whole world a big debt (CASH) for letting them be players in OUR world.

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MrTallyman

Most of them have stereos and DVD players and flat screen TVs in the tin shacks now too.

It seems that even in the communist countries, they embrace out culture. Where they can. Try that in North Korea.

I wonder how many Home Theater items are common in Cuban homes.

Do Cubans have homes?

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MrTallyman

So, you are telling us that your delusion is coffee based?

Those were evacuation helicopters for civilians.

Those hanging from their rails were civilians.

If you were in Thailand, you was a pussy.

You obviously still are with the shit I see you post constantly.

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MrTallyman

Well, we kicked 'em out, and it wasn't easy.

I thought it was before.

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MrTallyman

Facts? You spew crap and cry when you're called on it. I note the snipped context. All the marks of a liar.

Back at ya, druggie.

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krw

The problem with central control is that nobody, especially economists, knows how economies actually work, or how to steer them. The best management is permissive chaos, where ideas and industries are allowed to breed and flourish whichever way they can, with only basic government controls.

John

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John Larkin

probably the best economic model is the Fascist/National Socialist one, which is what China is applying. Ruthless competition directed towards nationalist goals. So they have a form of rabid Capitalism which the government makes sure does not harm national interests. No Chinese "multinationals" outsourcing R&D etc

--
Dirk

http://www.neopax.com/technomage/ - My new book - Magick and Technology
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

m

I think you are missing the point. Thailand - like China - is in the comfortable position of knowing how a high technology manufacturing economy can be put together, and they have a government which is dedicated to encouraging the growth of such an economy. The free market is allowed to determine which bits grow fastest, but if anything was missing or if something looked like it was turning into a monopoly, there's a certain amount of intervention, of a kind that would not meet with John Larkin's approval.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Bill Sloman

t.

That's odd. My life does depend on counting out the right number of pills every night, and I'm still alive.

Maybe the anonymous nitwit is wrong about "clueless" as well.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Bill Sloman

That does seem to work.

They don't seem to need to steal it - they just offer to manufacture the intellectual property more cheaply than anyone in Europe or the US.

There doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. They don't pay high wages - when compared with US and the richer European employers - but they don't seem to need to compel anybody to work in factories, rather than on farms.

The do spread most of the wealth domestically, but there's enough left over to buy US Treasury notes.

Crammed into dorms may be a better deal than the parental farm house. I'm sure that there are suicides, as there are everywhere, but there doesn't seem to be evidence of any large number of them. Getting beat up if you complain used to be something that the Pinkertons did - the US has progressed to more subtle and apparently more effective forms of union bashing since trade unions don't seem to be doing too well in the US at the moment. Presumably this is one of the technologies that the Chinses are still in the prcess of mastering.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Bill Sloman

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