I can't get a transmission line to accept an expression for the delay
Td={expr} Z0=50
Either I'm doing it wrong, or there is a fundamental causality violation or something that doesn't allow it.
Seems like a variable delay line is physically OK, but messy. You can certainly build one in real life.
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Jim Thompson
Td={expr} Z0=50 will only work where "expr" is a fixed amount during the simulation.
If you're trying this inside of a loop, I'm sure it won't work. ...Jim Thompson
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Doesn't seem to. I have to build variable delays other ways.
I'm simulating a system that has to run for almost a second, and I'd like the max time step to be 5 ps, something like that. It does crazy things in auto mode, or at 50 ps max step size. At 5 ps, I might learn something useful in a year or two.
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Phil Hobbs
In real life causality is imposed consistently, though, and charge is conserved. With a general expression for the delay, you could do all sorts of acausal things that would cause the simulation to diverge.
Also, in real life changing the delay rapidly will cause a large change in signal amplitude, e.g. if you reduce the capacitance per unit length, the voltage will go up to keep CV constant.
Probably a more physicsy approach would work.
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Jim Thompson
You might try an all-pass with a multiplier... works, at least for a single-tone sinusoid.
Digital, make an ideal one-shot.
Sometimes a breadboard is faster ;-) ...Jim Thompson
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"physicsy" ?>:-) ...Jim Thompson
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Phil Hobbs
Yes, like an N-section variable LC, or possibly a big mux and binary-weighted tx lines.
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John Larkin
I'm using a simple analog ramp (diode, cap, current source) and a tanh() comparator.
Looks that way. Roughly 1e9 faster. I'm laying out a test board.
I can't post the Top Secret overall circuit, but I'll try to isolate one of the weird-behaving sections, for general amusement.
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John Larkin
The HP8133A pulse generator did that. It's full of inductor-varicap delay lines.
You can buy adjustable delay lines, sort of like wirewound pots with a slider wiper thing. The speed of moving the slider is of course well under the speed of light.
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Phil Hobbs
I've used trombone lines a fair amount, back in me yoot.
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Jim Thompson
That works.
OK ;-) ...Jim Thompson
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