Inverse Marx generator

Totally wrong. The current through the inductor is a sine wave and is predictable and finite. If you had an infinite current in the inductor, it would be storing infinite energy, and there's only a finite amount of energy avalable at T=0.

Pitiful guesswork.

John

Put up the schematic details.

Not up in the binary group either.

Here.

Well, "Latching relays have infinite gain" just ain't true, or even close. Large possible "gain" only. X minimal power to change state (use minimal amount for greatest "gain") and the contacts have a rather limited voltage and current handling capability. So, say about 100mW to switch states, and the contacts at (say) 200V max (but not more than 350V) and roughly 100mA at that voltage gives power switching / control in the region of 20W for a "gain" of 200. Slightly under infinite..

Are you dealing with numbers using zero ohm components?

Why should I compalin about your finally running a Spice simulation that demonstrates the very point I have been making? It's like the cherge pump sim you did, the one that verified the operation of my circuit, as you insisted it didn't.

The diode will add a little loss, but my point is made: an inductor can be used to transfer energy between two caps, with zero loss in the ideal-components case, and charge is not necessarily conserved.

John

What happens at the 436th cycle? Does the waveform suddenly flatline?

But the load current can continue to flow for years, and you only energized the coil for milliseconds. Calculate the power gain averaged over an hour. Then do a day. Then a month. See the pattern?

John

Archie, Archie...where did your parents go wrong? I's starting to believe that inbreeding IS bad for the offspring. Say hi to Uncle Daddy.

mike

Optical switch.

Zero FACT content there... as if we expect any. ...Jim Thompson

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Except it's probably a technique I've been using for years. Post what you think you've "discovered", then I'll post a schematic of mine from MANY years ago ;-) ...Jim Thompson

Yep, Always Wrong can be counted on to be always wrong. ...Jim Thompson

Tell us, what sort of noise does your Spice sim show at cycle 436?

If Q=200, and you started with, say, 10 volts on C1, after 435 cycles you should still have many millivolts of signal. Check the sim for exact values. That's hardly in the noise, especially Spice noise.

But sure, a lossy L will make the sine wave die out. No surprise. But note that each half-cycle transferred nearly all the energy and charge between the two caps, not the 50% charge as some people have claimed.

Do my examples. What's the upper limit on gain?

John

The diode dissipates power forever. But not a lot.

It does ring for a long time. Forever, in fact, but visibly for hundreds of cycles. The envelope decays exponentially. When would it stop?

You picked a low Q to dispute my "millions of cycles" statement. Try it again with a Q of, say, 1e6, which some resonators have.

Exponentially, which is to say it's dropping at the same rate it's always dropped.

John

_________^^^^^^________ / \ The weaseling down begins :-)

I said, "two caps", no inductor.

John "Pathetic Narcissist" Larkin, Does the relay toggle without consuming _some_ power?

Maybe it depends on your definition of "infinite" :-) ...Jim Thompson

Would you care to prove that for us John? Mathematically, that is. No hand-waving. After all you do claim trivial EE101 :-) ...Jim Thompson