New Product Idea

I was reading today about the recent earthquakes in and near so. Cal, and they were talking about how difficult it is to analyze faults and stuff - they were wondering how the quakes had affected nearby faults.

So I came up with this idea: How about a little home seismometer, that sells for about twenty bucks, maybe even with a GPS (I don't konw how cheap they are these days, but accelerometers are almost free), and an ethernet connection

- somebody could set up a central sort of monitoring place, and write some software to analyze movements and so on, to give an indication of seismic activity - maybe it could lead to some sort of early warning system!

Whaddaya think?

Thanks, Rich

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Thousands of home seisometers, scattered all over the place, interfaced to computers and the internet, would be interesting, sort of like Seti at Home. With enough data, and enough computing, it might be possible to 3D image the earth's internal structures, layer characteristics, stuff like that.

Maybe the computing part could be parceled back out to those same computers. Nasty math problems.

I wonder if a fault diffracts sound waves. It certainly makes them, now and then.

John

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John Larkin

That follows a model like the distributed computing models like the Berkley SETI at home thing.

Sounds nice, but there are far more accurate placements in hundreds (literally) of locations already, and they do analyze the data from them.

In a home, merely pulling into the garage with the car would deliver false information that would cause the need for further, more in depth processing of the data to cull out the false events.

They ARE analyzing a LOT of info already. They DO have hundreds of sensors already in place, already delivering radio dispatched recorded data blocks. With GPS.

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AM

There's an app for that:

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John O'Flaherty

I am quite sure that the accelerometer in the iSuckYerWalletDryPhone does not have the needed resolve to accurately provide usable data for analysis.

There would need to be iSuckYerWalletDryPhone fixtures to hold the phones involved in a specific orientation so that all readings could be normalized. The chip would actually have to have very good resolution, as well as the circuitry that reads it, and the iSuck is already packed full of PHONE circuits, so I doubt the resolve of the iSenseTheJiggles circuit will be good enough to begin with.

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Precisely how storms (and lightning) are located as a service to puddle-jumper airports. As in...

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Jim Thompson

Florida is the biggest 'Lightning research lab' in the world. Guaranteed daily test runs in numerous Lab 'theaters'. Guaranteed to be picked up on numerous such sensors, and numerous sensors of a different color as well. One can likely than NASA for that.

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AM

^^^^^ thank

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AM

On a sunny day (Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:00:32 -0700) it happened AM wrote in :

All a bit primitive perhaps, I just type:

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And know it is coming at me :-) Antenna is disconnected.

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Jan Panteltje

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tm

On a sunny day (Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:12:54 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :

Seti @ home was (or maybe is) the biggest scam there ever was. I was an early participanyt, until I relaised they would never find anything. The math is somewhere in sci.physics. (signal strength too low).

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Jan Panteltje

You ARE AN IDIOT!

They are now using the same antennas to detect orbit wobbles around stars and around galaxy centers, finding and "looking at" black holes.

You are one of those idiots that ran one iteration, and then decided it was useless.

Essentially, mindsets like yours, and very likely everything about you, is what is useless. (your contributions are too low).

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AM

It's not a scam, it's just an experiment with a low probability of finding a very important signal.

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John

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John Larkin

So, the iPhone network won't do the trick for serious research? Good enough only for earthquack researchers? Darn. Like a lot of deals that look good until you seism up.

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John O'Flaherty

Serious seismic research was around long before the iPud or the iSuckYerWalletDryPhone came around, much less the "app for that".

Folks should have boycotted Apple and everything about them years ago.

Open source and freedom rules!

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AM

Dangerous stuff. Don't you know that seismometers cause earthquakes?

DB

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wrp0143

On a sunny day (Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:23:49 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :

Extremely low probability.

Yes, at those frequencies the chances are better, you can only hope Aliens have better TV programs. More likely they will treat us as bugs if they are more advanced, and will be totally uninteresting if they are even 50 years behind. Our modern modulation systems look like white noise, somebody 50 years ago would have dismissed a present day DVB-T transmission as noise. And forget about decoding. OK, scam... how about 'overly optimistic'.

But I will buy the DVD if the movies are good:-)

Imagine the time window, in that link say 1000 stars, then how many habitable planets around those, then this time window 'of interest', as above of about say 50 years, in the millions of years those few planets (if any) existed, zilch. Safe bet.

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Jan Panteltje

On a sunny day (Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:10:20 -0700) it happened AM wrote in :

See my reply to J.Larkin. An idiot is somebody who calculates the experiment will not work, and then tries it anyways. You probably do not know calculus, or maybe you look or expect liberation by finding 'aliens', liberation is not in 'aliens', it is in yourself. False hope always has believers, it is hard to have to admit you have been suckered, better do it now, and spend your CPU cycles on something that is more fun. Greener too; saves electrickity, stops global warming (another believers tale).

Osama

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Jan Panteltje

On a sunny day (Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:25:00 -0500) it happened John O'Flaherty wrote in :

With the heavy traffic passing by here several times a day you would have earthquake alarm.

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Jan Panteltje

Har.

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AM

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