Inverse Marx generator

Which is idealistic. I _thought_ this was an engineering group... but I'm wrong. Who's seen a WORKABLE design here? A few. From Larkin... ZERO ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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If you like air hockey pucks better do it for them instead. You can even assume any spins you want including no spins. Please continue.

Reply to
JosephKK

Well let's consider this test case you just described. There was energy stored in each capacitor before closing the switch. There is none afterwards. Where did it go? How did it get there?

Reply to
JosephKK

The collapse-the-wave-function theory?

John

Reply to
John Larkin

Heat, light, e/m radiation, sound, maybe some chemical changes in the switch material.

The capacitors also lost a little bit of mass. Actually, that's where the energy came from.

John

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John Larkin

So. Mr. Guru, is the Universe going to collapse back in,back to the point at which it began, or expand forever? Or will it go out with a blink and just disintegrate?

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The Great Attractor

You forgot the FART ;-) What a dork! ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Sorry; #1 = You cannot win. #2 = You cannot break even. #3 = You lose (every time).

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Robert Baer

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The way I heard it is: #3 = You can't get out of the game. ;)
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John Fields

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True. :-)
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John Fields

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Well, the one that always brings a grin to my chops is: "Latching
relays have infinite gain."

There are others, but they slip my mind and it's just not worth the
effort to find them.
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John Fields

Which proves that something is lost, or the process has a cost, as each cycle is decaying.

It requires 'work' to 'cast' the electrons 'across' the face of the plates. :-)

Kind of like playing "Trouble". The surface gets crowded with electrons and a few get lost when the pressures bump around.

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AM

Which also demonstrates that, when he really tries, JF can use Spice to break aby circuit he chooses to break.

What's shocking is that JT and JF need to use Spice to analyze something as EE101-basic as this, and then manage to get things wrong.

John

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John Larkin

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:40:48 -0500, John Fields wrote:

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This is what I meant:

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John Fields

You should belay the dumb shit, dumbshit.

Would not zero internal resistance cause an infinite current flow, John?

One cannot model this in your famous 'ideal circuit' manner.

Unless you really want to go down that path, Mr Infinitophobia man.

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AM

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Mostly it's the resistance of the choke which causes the decay.

Right-click on the choke and then clear the box that says "series
resistance" and run the sim.

Surprise!


JF
Reply to
John Fields

Dag Nabbit!

Reply to
AM

Hysteresis of the domains only causes heating but the only cost is phase shift, because all that energy does get conserved? Or does that heating also have a cost. Or is it eddy currents I am thinking of?

Reply to
AM

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Hmmm... must have hit a nerve. Yay! :-)

What do you think I broke, BTW?
Reply to
John Fields

I think Larkin has gone nutso.

As for hand analysis, I'm the pro. Try me :-) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson, CTO                            |    mens     |
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