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In that case, just throw open the borders to everyone.

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John Larkin

income and comfortable lifestyle.

There's a big difference between allowing in skilled workers to support Ame rican industry and "throwing open the borders," H1B is more orderly and pur poseful, for one. Many H1B come from areas of acute poverty and are support ing extended families with the money they earn here. It is a far more effic ient process than the formal foreign aid route.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

Close the borders. Here's a number: 1/3 of prsoners in the US, or 600,000 are illegal immigrants. What % of criminals get caught? big subject.

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haiticare2011

if you compare the incarceration rate of the US vs. other developed countries it would seem it is about 600%

-Lasse

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

gh income and comfortable lifestyle.

merican industry and "throwing open the borders," H1B is more orderly and p urposeful, for one. Many H1B come from areas of acute poverty and are suppo rting extended families with the money they earn here. It is a far more eff icient process than the formal foreign aid route.

Getting foreign workers you didn't pay to educate to work for you so they a can no longer work for the competition would seems like double advantage f or the American industry

-Lasse

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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:57:44 PM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote :

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high income and comfortable lifestyle.

American industry and "throwing open the borders," H1B is more orderly and purposeful, for one. Many H1B come from areas of acute poverty and are sup porting extended families with the money they earn here. It is a far more e fficient process than the formal foreign aid route.

a can no longer work for the competition would seems like double advantage for the

And many of these people come from places that are a substantial market for US industrial products, they help create the wealth, it is only fair they should benefit too. People like Larkin are consummate walking contradiction s, on the one hand portraying themselves as self-made rugged individualists , but, once things seem to go against them, they whine that the government needs to do something about it.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

Can you cite my making either claim?

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John Larkin

But we are brain-draining the countries, swiping their brightest workers to keep down the pay of our citizens. I'm not sure that does anyone good, except the big tech companies.

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John Larkin

American industry and "throwing open the borders," H1B is more orderly and purposeful, for one. Many H1B come from areas of acute poverty and are supp orting extended families with the money they earn here. It is a far more ef ficient process than the formal foreign aid route.

I totally agree, not good in the long run. We're also hiring some fraction of our best and brightest to spy on ourselves and others. They could be designing circuits instead. (Or bridges.)

George H.

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George Herold

igh income and comfortable lifestyle.

American industry and "throwing open the borders," H1B is more orderly and purposeful, for one. Many H1B come from areas of acute poverty and are supp orting extended families with the money they earn here. It is a far more ef ficient process than the formal foreign aid route.

That's another fake claim of the isolationists, we are not swiping their br ightest workers, the majority of H1B are less than mid-career, they are not senior scientist types, and may not even have employment in their homeland s. If there are any so-called best and brightest, do you think it's better for them to rot in some third world hell either completely idle or working way below their capability set? Get real.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

Yeah, most of the best MIT grads now head to Wall Street, to become quants.

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John Larkin

Not if you're an "Hi-Tech Worker", where it does look like an open border.

Also a very efficient IP flow to foreign countries.

We are if we are selective on who we import. Are you suggesting an open border so as not to just target those with high IQs?

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Let's all become illegal aliens.

Here's a handy form you can use (a bit dated, but WTF...)

Dear Senator ____________,

As a native ________ and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted the Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the process for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you.

My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S. Citizen to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently passed by the Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill's provisions is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen is to pay a $2,000 fine and income taxes for three of the last five years. I know a good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get the process started before everyone figures it out.

Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay taxes every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two years of taxes in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I can apply to be illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent result for me and my family because we paid heavy taxes in 2004 and 2005.

Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could save almost $10,000 a year.

Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to her law school applications, as well as 'in-state' tuition rates for many colleges throughout the United States for my son.

Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the burden of renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome car insurance premiums. This is very important to me given that I still have college age children driving my car.

If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become illegal (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary forms, I would be most appreciative. Thank you for your assistance.

Your Loyal Constituent, (hoping to reach 'illegal alien' status rather than just a bona fide citizen of the USA )

signed,

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JW

In those industries that form a part of the global economy it should be a global workforce. US business would be a total failure otherwise. As for IP, the foreign owned patents have exceeded domestic patents for more than 30 years now.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

I'm trying to decide if you're making more, or less sense than usual.

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JW

rt American industry and "throwing open the borders," H1B is more orderly a nd purposeful, for one. Many H1B come from areas of acute poverty and are s upporting extended families with the money they earn here. It is a far more efficient process than the formal foreign aid route.

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Let's not pretend all illegals are here for hard work and to contribute to the common welfare. There are 600,000 career criminals in US prisons. That costs

50 billion $ a year (including gov OH), or more than the entire venture cap ital industry in the world. For many years now, prison expenditures in Californi a have been greater than educational expenditures.

And this does not cover the collateral damage of MS-13, Mexican drug gangs, and the asian triads. Also included are the 2-5 million illegal criminals who are not in jail. Every day, semi trailers loaded with crystal meth driv e across the border unsearched to trans-shipment points in Fresno and beyon d.

Te image of the poor immigrant, eager to start a new life in the land of op portunity, does not cover all the cases. America is a great place to go if you are a criminal.

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haiticare2011

$833,333 per person per year ?!

can't we just buy them off for a lot less, say around $100,000, fairly decent 'salary' ?

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RobertMacy

you are a criminal.

Compare the Chinese handling of criminals: A friend engineer who developing a paint factory there, said he saw a daily ritual of taking prisoners to a vacant lot nearby to get shot. Afterwards, the government sends a bill for the bullet to the family of the criminal. Quite a contrast.

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haiticare2011

Hi - Yes, I've had that thought too. Lets ee:

600,000 x 100,000 = 6x10exp5 x 1 x 10exp5 = 6 x 10exp10 = 60 billion $. um - I set 100k/yr because of the hidden OH of government, something they like to deny, but is real nonetheless. A more traditional number might be 50k, but "Let's get real" as the saying goes in accounting.
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