HP11C emulators?

No, first the seams of the shirt pocket begin to fray. The HP11C looks like the third one. IMHO the only real scientific "pocket" calculator.

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My HP11C actually _is_ my wife's calculator.

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Don't see any algebraic mode or an '=' button. Perhaps it's a different "xcalc"? This is the one we're talking about:

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Just tried it. Neat! It does weird things in the stack though but when setting that to one line it seems to follow the 11C results. Wish it could be set to display only four digits or so in ENG mode but you can't have everything.

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If it does, I haven't found one. It just looks like an ordinary 4-function calculator.

Well, OK, it's got trig, logs & exponents, parentheses, x!, and so on.

It does have "STO", "RCL", "SUM", and "EXC" keys, but there's nothing RPN about them.

And it has no menus at all - just the standard minimize, maximize, and close buttons.

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They're probably talking about something like this:

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Yes - that's a different one. Mine is just the old calculator that comes with Linux distributions. Actually, to cover my butt, I did a search and found that one just a few minutes ago. :-0

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Joerg hath wroth:

First remove from the shirt pocket the pocket protector full of pens, the mess of crumpled receipts, and whatever else you've shoved into the pocket. Then, the calculator will fit.

I couldn't find my HP11c. I think it's in my brief case which I managed to leave at a customers. The HP16c in the photo is the same exact size as the HP11c.

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same

You mean, also the candy and the chewing gum package?

But it's keys and display are still rotated 90 degrees ;-)

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Yep, and it does RPN. The stack is a bit weird IMHO but other than that it seems to work.

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Joerg hath wroth:

Yep. Those will also have to go. Too much sugar is bad for you.

There doesn't seem to be an official pocket protector dress code. These are close:

Hmmm... No screwdriver or tuning tool.

You can also make one yourself to accommodate a calculator:

However, a calculator should really be worn on the belt, as in the Batman utility belt:

Note the Bill Hewlett did NOT wear a pocket protect when specifying that the HP35 had to fit in his shirt pocket. I just played the HP "Origins" DVD to be sure. Anyway, you might be able to find a belt holster for your calculator, make one, or see if you can find a cell phone belt holder that it fits.

True. Unfortunately, the HP11c doesn't have a "landscape/portrait" mode switch, which is standard on Windoze Mobile 2005 devices. Perhaps the matrix rotation functions will also rotate the keys.

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Apparently Rich missed this comment I made earlier:

"Xcalc is a windows program, and is not to be confused with the (poor) calculator that comes with X."

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Oh, but you can have that. ;-) Play with the string of numbers after "FixN" label. They adjusts the precision.

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I kinda like this one:

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It does not claim to be an HP-xyz model, but does support RPN, engineering notation, 10 memory locations and visualises a 3 level stack. I used the PocketPC version, but seems it is also available for Windows. The only thing I miss is HEX/DEC stuff, but I can start a different calculator for that.

The buttons are big enough to run it with my fingernails.

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I always wondered why there never was a popular belt holster for calculators. For cell phone you can buy them anywhere for around $10.

Sounds like Andre Citroen's order before they went on to design the Citroen 2CV: A farmer with wooden shoes must be able to barrel across a rough dirt road with a dozen eggs on the back seat. Upon arrival none of the eggs shall be damaged. Oh, and no worse than 50mpg or so. They did it and this was in the late 30's!

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Ah, thanks! Much better now.

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Thanks, but I don't have a pocket PC. XCalc works though.

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Joerg hath wroth:

You need a Pocket PC. You haven't been miserable or in computer hell until you've owned or used a Pocket PC. I have a Verizon XV6700:

The problem is that it has everything that anyone could want in a cell phone and PDA. However, every feature and function has something broken, buggy, or intentionally disabled by Verizon. (Details on request).

The phone can be bludgeoned, patched, and hacked into submission, but the effort is monumental.

I used to have several calculators loaded, but I only used them for splitting the lunch/dinner tab. No clue what they were because my latest adventure in trying to convince the internal GPS to belch numbers resulted in a stuck message waiting indicator, which required resetting everything:

For all the things wrong with WM2005, I still like the idea of only carrying one gadget that does everything, instead of a Batman utility belt full with phone, calculator, PDA, MP3 player, flashlight, GPS, etc.

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Plus I do not want to be bound to one carrier by a 1-2 year contract and $40-50/mo. I have a very simple phone that costs me roughly $5/mo with (so far) unlimited roll-over.

My very basic Nokia 2115i does have a calculator. Only simple math and no RPN though.

Me, too. However, I have accepted the fact that in reality such devices don't exist. Over 15 years ago I had a Wang 8086 laptop. Did everything I wanted to do while traveling, writing module specs, database, CAD and so on. Lasted forever on a battery charge. Why on earth nobody pours that into an ASIC, I don't know. Guess bloatware stopped that and most people think they really need all this bloat.

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I had the Sprint version of that phone for nearly two years; sold it a few months ago. I agree with your assessment... tons of potential, somewhat hampered by somewhat buggy software. I very much *liked* the phone, I could just never *love* it. (I'm told the reason that CrackberXXX, I mean, Blackberries are so popular with business people is due to the fact that they Just Work. Nowhere near the software selection that Windows Mobile or Palm has, but what there is is supposedly pretty rock solid, which obviously counts for a lot if you're a not-particularly-techno-geeky businessman.)

I like the idea, but I'm not convinced it's particularly practical. At least for me, a calculator needs a "real" (not on-screen) keyboard for me to be productive, and for a lot of text enter, there's still nothing faster than a "real" keyboard. That being said, I no longer have a separate MP3 player now that 16GB memory cards are reasonably priced! :-)

I have an HTC Touch now and don't miss the 6700's little slide-out keyboard. Windows Mobile 6 has some decent improvements as well, including better compatibility with older programs. Push-mail finally works reasonably well, which is cool.

---Joel

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