War is often just large scale armed robbery. The US has many things of value including the land it is on. Others might like to have those things. Remember that the native americans didn't control their borders and defend against invaders. Look what happened to them. They didn't do anything to europe to be retaliated for.
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Jim Thompson
There you go again, John, being politically incorrect ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Not to mention:
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John Larkin
Both the Clintons are frightening, and dangerous, in their absolute amorality.
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MooseFET
Typical Faux News.
(1) They say: "Clinton's own plea agreement in the last hours of his presidency - for making false statements under oath? Some people would call that perjury."
While it is true that some people would call that perjury, none of those people would be judges or lawyers. Clinton lied under oath about something that was not germane to the issue at hand. This is not perjury.
(2) The say " - granting 140 of them during his last minutes in office
- with many going to terrorists"
Nope.
(2B) They continue ", people who had paid Hillary's brothers to arrange for pardons"
Proof please.
(2C) They "contributed money or key support to Hillary's Senate campaign, given the Clintons expensive personal gifts, and/or made large contributions to Bill Clinton's Presidential Library. One of the pardons went to Bill's own brother, Roger, while another went to Susan MacDougal, who kept quiet about Clinton during the Whitewater trial."
Not one of those were before the person entered jail and exhausted the court. Not one was part of an ongoing criminal matter.
(3) They quote Mr Bill: "attacked President Bush, saying, "This commutation sends the clear signal that in this administration, cronyism and ideology trump competence and justice." "
He is right. A theft can tell you the sky is blue.
(4) They say: "The big difference was that many of the Clinton pardons were patently bought and paid for - something event he Clintons don't claim to be the case in the Libby commutation."
Who says the Clintons don't claim that? There are going to be hearings over whether or not there was a Quid Pro Quo for the Libby defence folding up. They did not put on the vigorous defence that the opening statement suggested they would. Why was that? Did they get a deal?
and on and on they go.
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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MooseFET
"None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition."
In other words they attemped to overthrow a government not commit terrorism.
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Michael A. Terrell
Wow! If you knew what you're talking about the AMA would have a hit contract out on you. There are a lot of conditions that this simple minded concept won't prevent, or cure.
They were nursed with sour Persimmons, and never got over it.
Proof that the income tax should be inversely proportional to IQ. That way they could easily tax idiots out of existence.
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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James Arthur
What I've said is what doctors have been screaming for years. If you follow the current literature, it's being re-confirmed time and time again, in greater detail than ever.
It all comes back to a) the basics, and b) you really don't want to get sick if you can avoid it. Antibiotics are miracles, and a few other drugs are marvels, but we've still got a long way to go.
Obviously, but what I've described covers about half of what we spend money on. If we do our part to avoid the avoidable, then there's lots more left for helping the truly unavoidable.
Cheers, James Arthur
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joseph2k
No. She is a blazing idiot to have said it that way. Talking to her ultra-liberal core or not, it was the wrong thing to say. It can and often does offend the independents, who, in the end, usually decide the elections.
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.
--Schiller
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MooseFET
He doesn't seem to notice that in eating fruit, you are assuming it isn't poisonous. Even his own advice needs an FDA.
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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria
Yes, precisely. But I'm not allowed to do that - if I choose not to pay those fees I never use, they will come and take my money by force.
This is theft, plain and simple.
If you can't see that, then you need medical attention.
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MooseFET
You can choose not to do those things that take advanges of the services of the government and thuse not have any fees to pay.
Everything that causes you to owe a tax involves a free choice you have made and the use of a service of the government.
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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria
Which is precisely the problem.
Without private ownership of property, and of oneself, then there is only tyranny. Government ownership of everything is communism, which was the boogeyman that we invested so much blood and treasure fighting against for all of the cold war. We got communist Russia to back down - now are you planning on turning the US communist from the inside?
Thanks, Rich
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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria
What good is radioactive dirt?
Thanks, Rich
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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria
The neocons, like Cheney, Bush, et al, are even more frightening and dangerous, since they're the ones with their finger on the button, and they're demonstrably quite insane.
Thanks, Rich
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John Larkin
He was suspended from practising law in his home state, so some judges and lawyers seem to not agree with you.
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"The commutation was opposed by U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police,[4] members of Congress, and Hillary Clinton in her campaign for Senator.[5] Congress condemned the action, with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House.[6][7] The U.S. House Committee on Government Reform held an investigation on the matter, but the Justice Department prevented FBI officials from testifying.[8] President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over some documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group."
Not so. google "Marc Rich pardon."
Libby was not pardoned; his prison term was commuted. Even if he did lie to agents in an FBI interview, the interview was about a non-crime (nobody was ever charged for outing Plame, who was a publicity hound herself) so the usual legal treatment would be to ignore the presumed lies because they are moot. Really.
He should have said what the Clintons love to say: "I can't recall."
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joseph2k
That reminds me, for all the screaming that Republicans did to get a balanced budget during Clinton's terms; they were sure quick to do deficit spending once they got in office.
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.
--Schiller
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joseph2k
Hell, i am about 80th percentile in income as an engineer, and JT is over
95% percentile.
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens.
--Schiller
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