Debate

... The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.

They're pising, from it's effects?

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As Dubbya illustrated.

Strange how the US GDP keeps on creeping up, despite all the errors that Obama is supposed to be making. It would creep up a bit faster if the Tea Party wasn't quite so fixed on maintaining a situation where the growth only benefits the top 5% of the income distribution - the group whose incomes went up 4.9% from 2010 to 2011, while everybody else's shrank.

Nowhere near as much as your approach - which would shrink the economy at about 6% per year - would hurt the almost everybody. Hoover did a really great job from 1929 to to 1932, and you want the current government to do just as well.

But a whole lot less "long term damage" than would be caused by letting the economy shrink, as opposed to sustaining the - slow - growth that's going on at the moment. Paying off debt is just shifting money about. Restarting factories and businesses that have gone bankrupt and shut down is a much slower process, and takes a lot more work.

It's still difficult to get them to change their ways.

Back in the 1950's CSIRO - the Australian Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, which does a lot of research on improving agricultural technology - paid for a sociological study on how to get farmers to use what CSIRO had found out, and the answer was pretty much what you'd expect.

You had to scour a district to find the most progressive farmer around, and concentrate all your efforts on him. When he started making more money than his neighbours, they'd start copying what he was doing, but even then they'd be cautious.

They certainly are this week.

Marker. Spamtrap unable to support the position taken resorts to profanity.

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That is certainly not what the track record says.

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And it appears that you are complaining about the defectorate that you try to build. Comparing today's price tag only and caring nothing about quality; let alone total cost of ownership.

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Thanks. I'll remember that one.

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the spending of your client base.

company has continued to turn high profits even in the recession, and its CEO made $8.8 million in 2011 (which was a 40 percent drop from what he made in 2010). And yet most of its nearly 33,000 employees make less than $10 per hour."

Gosh, you seem to have forgotten the concept of a starter job. Also a job to work my way through college. Just how much do you think a stock person or cash register jockey is really worth?

country hang it up.

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hit by a successful whistleblower (?qui tam?) action. In 2005, Staples paid $7.5 million to the federal government to settle a whistleblower ?qui tam? lawsuit that the Justice Department joined.

Staples? board of directors ? Staples sold the federal government office supply products that were manufactured in China and Taiwan rather than in countries that have trade agreements with the U.S., as required by the company?s contract with the government. "

Freeport, Illinois, of which Bain is the majority owner, are calling on Romney to help save their jobs from being shipped to China. The plant manufactures sensors and controls that are used in aircraft and automobiles, but has been dismantling and shipping the plant to China piece by piece, even as it requires the workers to train personally their Chinese replacements, who have been flown in by management. The workers in Illinois say their petition of 35,000 signatures, as well as their multiple visits to Romney?s headquarters, have fallen on deaf ears, so they?re taking their plea straight to Romney here at that Republican National Convention."

But you demand lowest possible price for everything you buy and to h*** with real quality. Example, you use google groups rather than get a real news provider and a real news client.

And for a bunch of people claiming to be so independent and taking responsibility for themselves and less government spending, they sure do a LOT of business with the Federal government

Zero sum game is your best idea? What a criminal incompetent you are.

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No. We need the govmonks to back off on intimidating them and creating regulatory uncertainty. If you threaten them with many new taxes should they find it almost reasonable to post a new job how do you think they will react?

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OK; thanks for flying your true colors so clearly. BTW i find you evil incarnate.

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One of the more useful concepts in life is, "Make it their problem."

spending of your client base.

has continued to turn high profits even in the recession, and its CEO made $8.8 million in 2011 (which was a 40 percent drop from what he made in 2010). And yet most of its nearly 33,000 employees make less than $10 per hour."

People shop around, and look for the best deal. If Staples doubled wages, and posted that fact in public, most people would shop elsewhere, for lower prices. It's not the business that sets wages, it's the customers... the public.

When people go to Home Depot to buy a hammer, most will pick the cheapest that looks OK for their needs. Given a Chinese hammer or a similar one made in Vermont that costs twice as much, they will usually select the Chinese one. The greed here isn't the employer, it's the customer.

And kill more jobs? Where will the revenue come from to pay down the debt?

Our current tax structure discourages hiring, so we get fewer jobs. It encourages keeping assets offshore, so that's where they stay. It encourages market manipulation, so Wall Street wins.

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I've got a real news provider - Forte - but I only use it when google groups is acrewed up. Old google groups is simply quicker and easier, even if it does happen to be free. New google groups isn't as good.

From New Zealand? He has no business even discussing the US elections.

Neither does the fathead Slowman but it doesn't stop him.