Colloidal silver generator?

Anybody know how a colloidal silver generator works? I have read a few articles that suggest drinking a solution of silver and water cures many medical problems, and the solution can be made with just a couple silver electrodes in distilled water using a constant current of around 1 mA for a couple hours.

Is this just a quack idea, or does it have some benefit?

How much current is needed, for how much time, for optimum results, and how do you determine the end of the process when enough silver is disolved in the water, and it's time to take a drink?

-Bill

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Firstly, depsite all the garbage on the net for and against it, it works very well as a topical antibiotic and antifungal, and systemic antibiotic. It might or might not do other things, it is also claimed it kills viri, but I simply have no data on that. Its most noticeable features are its speed of action, ability to tackle (other-) antibiotic resistant bacteria, flawless safety record, low cost, and instability.

One problem with cs is there is so much junk written about it that its most difficult to get anything sensible to read. The other problem is it has been the focus of companies of questionable legality, and in many minds the substance has become associated with the business practice.

The 3rd problem is that much of the shop sold cs is not cs at all.

The 4th is that it is unstable, so you need to make it yourself on site, keep it in the dark in the fridge, and use it within 5 days.

How to make it:

2 pure silver electrodes (many silver coins are not pure silver), say 1 to 2" discs

distilled water in a glass bowl

apply 9v dc to the electrodes via a current limiting R of 2.

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Let it work for 5 hours

before use it is necessary to remove any silver particles, as silver is a heavy metal. Put 2 layers of toilet paper in a teastrainer or similar, pour enough cs through it as you need (a good gulp twice a day for systemic antibiotc use).

Use only glass in contact with cs, dont put spoons into it to get it out etc. Other items in contact with cs cause rapid deterioration, so can only be used at time of use. This is why you dont filter the lot then store.

How does this work with distilled water? Distilled water is not perfectly non-conductive, it is merely low conduction. Expect a variable starting curent of maybe 5-15uA, and finishing in the region of 30-60uA.

Toxicity: no known toxicity. Silver is a heavy metal, but a non problematic one, ie eating from silver plates is safe. The quantity of silver in the end result is not enough to cause problems, even if you drink it for a lifetime.

Argyria: Rosemary Jacobs did not get this blue skin coloration from this type of cs, she got it from ground silver powder in water, which contains 1000s times as much Ag, and was used under the name colloidal silver a century ago. It is a different product.

Use:

Topical: apply cs soaked toilet paper to infection, keep in place for

10 minutes 2x a day. Expect complete clearance in 2-3 days, even for quite serious infections.

Systemic: a good gulp 2x a day. Expect complete clearance in 2-3 days. Dose does not need to be more accurate because there is a huge margin between effective and toxic.

Once more people get past all the nonsense and shenanigans that surround it, and address only the question 'does it kill bacteria or not', I'm sure its use will spread.

NT

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bigcat

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1.5" discs work well. Other things have also been used, eg silver wire. The silver must be pure.

NT

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bigcat

It will not work that way with distilled water. Any electrolysis requires the water to be conductive. My swimming pool has a silver and copper ion generator. It has a constant current generator attached to two electrodes in the pump filter housing. For our

12 metre pool we use a current of about 100mA. The copper ions stop any algae forming and the silver kills any bacteria or viruses. Tests indicate that it works very well.

I would assume that a similar principle would apply to drinking water ionisers as well.

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How long do the electrodes last (Hours in service) and what are their dimensions please ?

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Rheilly Phoull

CS is an excellent antibacteria, antiviral, and in high concentration, an excellent antifungal agent. It is very stable if made properly.

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I recommend getting some and measuring it. There is often confusion around this. Any practical source of distilled water will contain _some_ ions. While it can indeed be used as a high v insulator, it isnt quite perfect.

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again, an approximate figure can very simply be calculated from what was specified. The trodes were about 2/3 the way under water, but size and immersion are not critical.

NT

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bigcat

You may be correct in all you say, EXCEPT: true distilled water is

*not* conductive; it is a pretty good insulator. In order to get currents in the range you mentioned, one has to be rather eXplicit about a lot of information you did not even hint about. 1) Voltage should be specified. (remember, E(voltage)=I(current)*R(resistance). 2) Electrode area IN the water (and that means *both* electrodes). (remember, we are talking about *volume* resistivity, so to decrease the terminal resistance, one needs to increase the area).
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Robert Baer

At last; the AREA - but what about the VOLTAGE?

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Ross Herbert

It's a shame they've stopped teaching science in the schools.[1]

Show me a peer-reviewed double-blind study that supports any of their claims.

[1]Same holds for the Schiavo case.
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JeffM

Ah. I see. Science by consensus.

Feh. Rich

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Richard the Dreaded Libertaria

Proof beats dogma. Consensus beats zero every time. Hell, 1 beats zero. I'm still waiting to see anything that looks like science on the pro side.

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JeffM

Very high quailty DI water has about 18 Mohm * cm. It does not stay that good for a long time if stored. So you can expect a better conductivity from off the shelf distilled water.

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Andreas Rutz

And the other side of the coin from a manufacturer

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Ross Herbert

This is the number one problem with cs. Studies are reported, but without really sufficient information to evaluate them.

Meanwhile a lot of people are using it, and have got results. For me thats what I base my conclusions on: not what I found online, which was pretty shaky, but on the results of testing/using it repeatedly. It works.

NT

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bigcat

One would think, with thousands of years of use, CS would be well-documented. Why is it not?

I'd love to study the long-term effects of some specific items on lab mice. Like tap water (with chlorine and fluorine free radicals), de-ionized/distilled water, CS, etc. Just so SOMEBODY would know once and for all, the facts.

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That's the problem. Waiting to _see_ it.

Have you tried _feeling_?

Good Luck! Rich

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Rich The Philosophizer

I read in sci.electronics.design that Mark Jones wrote (in ) about 'Colloidal silver generator?', on Tue, 29 Mar 2005:

Presumably because none of the drug companies can see a way of getting a patentable drug out of it.

You won't get a grant to do it, for the above reason.

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