The Chinese astronauts returned safely some hours ago. They did a spacewalk too. US has not been doing anything else then space walking around the ISS the last few years.
Both will aim for the moon.
My congratulations to China, followed the whole thing live on CCTV9 (Hotbird) via satellite).
It was a perfect mission, their electronics works too :-)
Their mission control looks better then NASA's.
I wouldn't say they exactly "equal" the US in space capability after one successful space walk. The US did that forty years ago without microprocessors. Don't get me wrong it was a good accomplishment, but I'll be more impressed when they leave orbit.
On a sunny day (Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:08:23 -0500) it happened "Anthony Fremont" wrote in :
Well, that is true, of course. But that was the 'old' Werher von Braun crew. I bet he would be back on the moon in a year, not 2020 as NASA wants.
But did you know that Chinese rocket had *67* successful launches, zero failures? So now you know who to trust your sats to.
few years.
We've been there already. So I think we're still ahead.
via satellite).
I hope so. Its the same stuff we use.
Probably because 1) its newer, and 2) they don't have to spread their acquisition contracts around to states and companies based upon political influence. Its a military program in a country where, if you don't keep the customer happy they shoot you.
IMO, that policy would go a long way toward cleaning up Pentagon contracts as well.
few years.
via satellite).
Neither space walks, no putting men on the moon, is inherently valuable. And nowadays, with so much technology behind us, neither is especially difficult; all it takes is a heap of money.
I suppose North Korea will do it next.
Lots of Chinese stuff "looks" good.
John
failures?
I have doubts that the US will be back on the moon by 2020, even with the new Saturn 5.1 "Back to the Future" efforts.
last few years.
via satellite).
What might well be inherently valuable is doing a bit of asteroid mining.
last few years.
(Hotbird) via satellite).
Do asteroids have any valuable stuff inside? Seems like even a solid gold asteriod wouldn't be worth the energy it would take to exploit it.
And it sure wouldn't make sense to send up people to do it.
John
It's not worth it if you intend to bring the stuff home. But it's unimaginably valuable if it's to be used in space. The same energy costs apply to getting stuff from here to space, so raw materials that are already there are inherently valuable.
Agreed.
Un bel giorno Jan Panteltje digitò:
Yep, but then the taikonauts died poisoned by the food and the paint into the spacecraft.
failures?
And where are, and WHAT are these 67 PAYLOADS, idiot?
None of the chips of which "their electronics" is comprised of are designed by them either.
A cannot believe how "horses with blinders on" some of the folks here are.
On a sunny day (Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:17:52 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :
few years.
via satellite).
Well, they have to manage zillions of people, give them some goal. Sure the Great Leader did read a pre-determined text today to the astronauts, I have seen it, did he use auto-cue? I dunno, he spoke in a telephone. The astronauts clearly read from some piece of paper.
But remember, even Neil Armstrong did say 'small step...' and that was all studied in.
In the US it is exactly the same, just you do not know it. You are kept busy voting between Democrats and Republicanions, makes you think you have a choice, while being plundered by a Saudi mole that they made you vote for. Now he takes away your life savings if those are in a bank... The media are under state control. I can tell you about the media, I worked there in head control centre man years. There is a telephone, and if that one rings you dance to its tune. It is a straight line to the government.
Running a country, with the well-being of so many at stake, requires this sort of discipline. I was suited for it then, not now I think, but they have plenty who can do it with full conviction. Also is there an other way? Politics is about control. It is sad that some people (somebody here called ThomThom or something), just completely makes the crap their own, and start parroting the sentences. But that sort of politics is aimed at the common people, THEY are the majority, the intelligentsia never was.
China should be respected for having so many people live together in peace. And making such a great progress technically, economically, and even politically (after Mao).
few years.
via satellite).
I would not find it hard to believe that say... only one in five consoles actually had a viable function.
last few years.
(Hotbird) via satellite).
Read Clarke much? I don't think so.
That would be the exact thing to do.
Push it however it needs pushed to get it into an earth or other planet's orbit, land on it, mine it, and fire parcels of gold to the moon as a standby platform.
I'll be more impressed when they come back.
So maybe all the Chinese want to do is colonise the Moon, Mars and the Asteroids. Not cost effective for the USA to do.
It is if you don't want it done at the speed of the Mars rovers.
few years.
via satellite).
They better import safe food for their crew, or they will die on the way.
It should. At least part of it is the same thing NASA used. They bought most of their telemetry equipment from Microdyne. They would have bought more, but the Clinton era politicians changed their mind and stopped further shipments.
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last few years.
via satellite).
Just shows what kind of crap unregulated Capitalism produces.
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