Battery problems

You prove my point, SNIPPERMAN.

And how many Chicago fires have you seen lately, SNIPPERMAN?

You obviously know NOTHING about battery fires - they CAN'T be kept cool because they are generating their own oxygen. ONLY the surrounding areas can be kept cool to prevent thermal runaway of adjacent batteries.

Good luck with that, SNIPPERMAN. Perhaps you are clairvoyant - most firefighters AREN'T!

Note to the uninformed: gas fires can be stopped by cutting off their source of oxygen; lithium battery fires generate their OWN OXYGEN, fool.

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Flyguy
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One has to wonder what point Flyguy thought that he had made. He certainly hasn't posted a link to any entire parking lot full of EVs catching on fire.

Or recent fires in London? The point is that it used to be real risk and we've worked out how to deal with it. Flyguy seems to think that if he can imagine a situation where the risk hasn't been dealt with, there's no possible way of avoiding the disaster he has managed to imagine.

If you take the heat away they don't get as hot. Oxygen doesn't come into it. You know nothing about thermal management.

Any sensible battery management system has to have a least one temperature sensor in the middle of the battery - I'd expect to see at least two, with a second one on the surface of the battery. The temperature is going to be monitored by micropower processor, and if it registers a high internal temperature is can sound an alarm, and put in a mobile phone call to the fire service. The battery is big enough to keep the processor running 24/7.

Not a lot of clairvoyance involved there, but you do need to know a bit about modern electronics, which Flyguy doesn't, even though he is posting to the group sci.electronics.design.

Cutting off the oxygen source for number of cars parked in a parking garage isn't a well-known fire-fighting technique. Air is ubiquitous.

Lithium battery fires don't generate any oxygen. The oxidiser is built into the battery, and the problem comes when the battery decides to start self-discharging fast enough to get hot. This is detectable long before it gets noticeable or troublesome, but Flyguy doesn't know enough about batteries to appreciate this.

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Anthony William Sloman

Translation: NONE!

Lithium batteries generate FAR MORE heat than you can take away. Do the math, SNIPPERMAN, a Tesla battery pack has 100 KWH - how much water do you need to take that heat away given that it is NOT submerged and you are spraying water on it?

Sounds like an avalanche sensor that tells you about to be killed.

Coming from the IDIOT who advocates NUKING and FIREBOMBING his own country!

LOL! It's called spraying them with water, IDIOT!

You are just a FUCKING IDIOT, SNIPPERMAN - lithium battery fires DO generate their own oxygen: LOOK IT UP!!!!

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Flyguy

Flyguy marks his evasion of any point being made by leaving out any reference to that point, a

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Anthony William Sloman

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I should have left it at that. Flyguy can't imagine that he's wrong and can't process any information that might let him realise that he could be wrong.

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Anthony William Sloman

LOL! News flash: SNIPPERMAN is at a LOSS FOR WORDS!! You didn't address a SINGLE point that I made!!

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Flyguy

The point was that you didn't make any kind of point. You told us what you could "imagine" but you are in terminal senile dementia and can imagine all kinds of improbable events.

That isn't making any kind of point. It's just attempting to inject meaningless nonsense into the discussion - as you make a habit of doing.

Tell your minders to up your medication - you are getting more agitated than is good for you (or us).

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Anthony William Sloman

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