Another $300M Down the Drain at DoD

In , Bill Sloman wrote in part:

If you want to get more tax money "fat cats", don't you think it would be more direct and efficient to increase taxes on capital gains and dividends instead? Most capital gains and dividends (those on assets held over a year) get tax breaks. Warren Buffet said he pays a lower percentage of his income into taxes than his secretary does.

Meanwhile, corporate taxes puts USA companies lacking lobbyists at a competitive disadvantage against USA ones with lobbyists and foreign companies.

Although USA's corporate tax rate is 35%, percentage of USA corporate profit paid in taxes is much lower. USA corporations paid $191 billion in taxes for the entire year of 2010, while USA corporate profits were about $1.62 trillion. (I had an easier time piecing individual quarter data from different sources than finding a year total or all 4 quarters from the same source. Some sources don't mention clearly that the roughly-$1.6 trillion quarterly figures are annual rates.)

So, the average is 11.8% while the marginal rate is 35%? Looks like lots of exeptions, exemptions, breaks and "tax holidays" for companies with lobbyists, while startups getting profitable have to pay 35%.

How about reduce the rate to 10% and eliminate the breaks? A lot of corporations would be happy, lots of lobbyists will be out of jobs. Companies would find it more important towards their bottom lines to sell goods and services, and less important to do other things like paying lobbyists and working at tax avoidance. My estimate is that this would help the economy enough to actually increase corporate taxes paid.

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 - Don Klipstein (don@donklipstein.com)
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Don Klipstein
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Are you suggesting that the IRS collected 2.2 Trillion in taxes and then more in FICA? I don't see that anywhere. If you can show that to me I'll will admit error, until then your wrong. Mikek

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amdx

I reported both, percentage of budget and then to emphasis a point I should as a percentage of all taxes collected.

Here's exactly what I posted, don't know how you could miss it.

So to repeat, 98% of all tax revenues go to entitlements.

Yes -they- ("Total Budget" and "Total Tax Revenues") are two different values, that's why the numbers were different!

Hint: Total Budget - Total Tax Revenues = Crushing debt on next generation Mikek

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amdx

Ok, you found my typos, But my percentages are correct.

700 billion / 2.2 trillion = 31.8% 700,000,000,000 / 2,200,000,000,000 Do the math! You obviously don't want to believe me. Or maybe, you just don't want to believe we spend 98% of tax revenues on entitlements. Mikek
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amdx

Coming from an utter retard that cannot even stay on top of the difference between "you're" and "your", I'd say that YOU'RE an idiot, and I'd be right.

Most likely a little pants past the asscrack gang boy retard punk that THINKS you know what is going on because you THINK you have a handle on facts, when you do not REALLY KNOW a goddamned thing.

AFTER you self corrected your HUGE error of MORE than a couple orders of magnitude, you still want folks to think that you have some grip on reality?

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAhahahahah!

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Chieftain of the Carpet Crawle

If you can't refute the facts, start name calling. Please, show me where I have the facts wrong. Mikek

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amdx

You questioned, then omitted the FICA reference. Proves you are in the dark.

Your inability to acknowledge facts and rush to omit them places your credibility more in question the Weiner's was, and he was forced to resign.

AND you do not know the difference between "your" and "you're", and you do that ALL THE TIME, so do not try to call *that* a typo as well, IDIOT! That shows folks the mindset you were raised under. A BIG tell. And you want folks to put credence in your stupid little self-impotent horseshit posts?

You're a real weiner. You are the weakest weiner... Goodbye.

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Chieftain of the Carpet Crawle

I answered your FICA reference in another one of your posts.

I do know the difference and I don't do it all the time. You're still name calling because you can't refute my facts.

More name calling. That's weak. Mikek

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amdx

Social Security is NOT paid from IRS tax coffers. They ASSISTED in the costs. So, 20% of the 770B out is what the IRS contributed to SS.

Again, you KNOW nothing, and you ignore far too much. YOU need to do more REAL research, not quotes from some lame page you found.

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Chieftain of the Carpet Crawle

Finally a fact from you, and because you finally could refute something, you didn't name call. Yes, it is true that FICA taxes didn't cover the payments this year. So money did come out of general funds. Can you find a source that does not include SS as part of Total Tax Revenue? Thanks, Mikek

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amdx

Note how FICA took more in than the 770B you say was paid out.

Want to rethink, idiot?

Here, try this maybe:

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If it went away, then it was Obama and other overspending bastards that STOLE it.

Reply to
Chieftain of the Carpet Crawle

Try telling that to IRS Forms 1040 and schedule SE and their authors, and anyone reporting self-employed. And to IRS Form 941, its author(s), and employers who file it.

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 - Don Klipstein (don@donklipstein.com)
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Don Klipstein

The $770B is SS alone. FICA also includes a Medicare tax.

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 - Don Klipstein (don@donklipstein.com)
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Don Klipstein

Pressing for b.s. increases that solve 1% of nothing, empty symbolism to avoid facing critical problems he's greatly accelerated? Not respectable.

Playing golf while raising campaign money and complaining is easy. Letting everyone else do the work and the wrangling while circling, ready to jump in and take credit? Easy.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

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Cheer up

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-did I mention starvation?

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Fred Bloggs

Bwuahahahahah!

English not your first language?

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Chieftain of the Carpet Crawle

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Wrong.

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dagmargoodboat

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Exactly.

Brother Mike, you're righteous. No need to wrangle the Nymbot.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

Always.

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krw

Scraping? It's the best way to get rid of barnacles.

mike

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m II

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