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Leftist weenies can't understand simple facts. B-)

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Aye, that could get you a bit busy. Just don't add talking on a phone.

It was done with what we were expected to drive in Alaska at the cold weather research facility. It was a place where they didn't plow the snow. Instead, a road grader was used to turn loose snow into rough pack ice. Most of the winter was below -20 so the only time you encountered ice or water on ice was when some idiot was intentionally spinning their tires, or there had been an accident and the vehicle had melted some of the coarse ice.

The flooded a parking lot the night before the test, then used a fire hose to keep the ice wet for the test.

Sorry but whilst I do believe your description of what you did I reckon the aging road warrior was dozing at the wheel and was at least a second too late in applying his brakes. BMW ABS is nothing like that bad even on their ugly 4x4s. His vehicle might have been heavily overloaded I suppose but user error is still by far the most likely explanation.

Tell me about it. I have driven in Belgium for a few years and there with the random mix of priorite a droite junctions and normal ones you really need your wits about you. Especially near blind p-a-d junctions favoured by insurance fraudsters. They all drive relying on ABS. To explain for Americans some Belgian roads give priority to *all* right turning traffic provided that it does not slow down on making the turn! As you can imagine this causes an incredible number of accidents where a car comes out and one travelling on the main road ploughs into the drivers side door. Belgian drivers are very brave.

I view triggering ABS as an indication of failure to anticipate developing traffic situations ahead.

Regards, Martin Brown

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Different JW, much farther away.

I saw his panicked face, he really was gradually coming closer. Gradually, so the brakes must have been applied. He was alone in the car and AFAIR his only baggage was a briefcase and a laptop (which had crunched itself into the passenger side firewall).

Try Italy :-)

Priorite a klaxon. He who has loudest horn wins.

Yes, except when a kid jumps into the road. But even that can often be avoided. One boy that must now be about 15 got spared injury because I never go above 15mph in our 25mph road here. I stopped about 2ft from him when he was 3 or 4 and literally dashed into the road.

Joerg Inscribed thus:

I had a similar thing happen to me whilst I was doing my driving test, nearly 50 years ago. Kiddy ran out of a gate straight into the road chasing a football. I got my pink slip but never went on to complete the test. The examiner was more shaken than I was... No seatbelts in those days.

When we moved to the US they wanted us to do a new driving test. My wife was quite nervous about it. I told here "Nah, piece a cake" and it was for me. Then it was her turn. Sure enough someone went into the road right in front of her. She reacted well but thought "That's it, I'll have to come back". But the DMV guy said "that was a good reaction".

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Its a while since I was in the USA. First time was in New York. I was given the loan of a Ford truck, bloody big thing, only did about

Same in Germany. If you haven't done the test on a manual your driver license will have a restriction to automatics.

I was quite surprised when I rented a large delivery van in Germany and they didn't flinch after seeing my American license. It was a Diesel manual. All they asked me was whether I had driven a truck like this before, upon which I said "Well, yes, but not this small" :-)

I have driven a big-ass flatbed truck with 10-speeds forward and 3 reverse.

Doesn't mean that I want to :-(

My biggest concern was the number of idiots who would turn right in front of me... like I could stop quickly... I was a hauling a full

When I turned 16, 90% of all males failed the driver's test the first time. I took the exam with a stick the examiner was suitably impressed (even though I missed a gear parking - but don't think he caught it) and I passed. It was a tough car to learn a stick on too. It was way underpowered with a slushy clutch.

When I lived in VT, Hertz would always upgrade me to large RWD cars in the winter because I had a VT license and they knew they had a better chance of getting them back.

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This would require the computer for the automatic transmission to have a permanent and precise GPS feed, weather data feed, traffic congestion feed and so on. Oh, and in Europe it would also have to see that old Russky truck ahead that is abruptly pulling into lane 2 and that there is a wee berm of frozen snow between lane 1 and lane 2 (had a close one there once).

There are situations like that that are unavoidable.

A cyclist is still alive today because I know the road and have ABS - he was right over on my side of the road on a tight blind bend.

When I lived in Japan after a year we had to do the Japanese driving test - which is conducted on a standard cricket pitch sized test ground (which all the driving schools faithfully replicate). The test is actually quite demanding after a fashion and more so switching back to an unfamiliar badly worn manual transmission after a year of driving fancy autos. Hardest part of the theory was remembering that "green" traffic lights are "blue" if you want to pass the test.

Regards, Martin Brown

Are there any automatics still using bands? All the ones I've had anything to do with in the last twenty years have used multiplate clutches.