A good digital oscilloscope?

What's wrong with starting in neutral? AIUI, in some European countries, starting with a gear engaged and clutch depressed would be a driving test failure.

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Boob job would have interfered with those suspenders :-)

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Been there, done that.

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Hameg belongs to Rohde & Schwarz

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A US military driver's license listed only the vehicles you were authorized to drive. Drive anything not on that list and they lock you up. Even if there was an error on the list. I found that out the hard way in the Army. I was driving the truck I took my test in when a MP stopped me fro running a stop sign that was inside a huge bush at a corner in the officer's housing area. I asked how I was supposed to know the sign was there, when it was all he could do to pull the branches back enough to see part of it. His excuse was that I had been on base long enough to know it was there. I had been there a couple weeks, and never on that end of the base.

Then he arrested me after looking at my license. It took half a day to get the civilians in 'testing' to admit that they screwed up.

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Either one would have caused failure back in my days there. Neutral with the clutch released will cause the shaft of the transmission to add load and mass so the starter wears out faster. Also, kids could play rough in the car and slam into the stick. Starting while in gear is a big no-no. What if you sneeze and the foot slips off the clutch?

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Now that is just a mean test.

No, the mean part is when the instructor is talking to you and grabs the steering wheel to cause a skid to see how you handle it.

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Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you have.

Right hands flies off steering wheel and smacks instructor across the chops.

Then smoothly recover from skid unencumbered ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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I sure did. I knew exactly where I was and that the terrain coming up was slightly uphill (meaning the Russky truck will already be at a crawl), I knew that it was windy and thus the ice would be hard, I knew the traffic around me and when I could pull into lane 1, and I saw a truck with Russian plates wavering and sure enough pull out right in front of me. Which I just knew was going to happen because I've seen many before doing that. Truckers from the east over there seem to not use the mirrors much, maybe because they aren't used to autobahns.

An automatic transmission will know none of this and thus will likely deliver the muscle to go through the berm a smidgen too late. Since I saw the situation developing I already had it in 3rd and was driving cautiously avoiding load changes (it was rather slippery there). Then stepped on it when the truck pulled out, leaving some big furrows in the berm. I could hear the stuff scrape the bottom of the car but we were safely in the lane 1 tracks.

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In that situation any ever so small sideways slip would have been the end of it because it was on a stretch where they had temporarily removed the middle guard rail. Meaning narrowed lanes and traffic in the other direction.

And hoping it doesn't kill anyone :-)

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Transmission load in neutral is minimal. Kids, if properly restrained in the back (legal requirement in some places), shouldn't be able to reach the shifter.

On a previous point, how many times have you been hooted at when not starting across a railroad crossing until there was enough room for you on the other side?

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                                             (Stephen Leacock)

And cruised around on radical chrome-plated 4-wheel carts, sort of the geek's chopper.

John

Don't know, actually. The dual-clutch Audi/VW tranny uses multiplate wet clutches, like most motorcycles. I remember changing the clutch stack on my Honda bikes in about 5 minutes.

The wet clutches have a bit of viscous coupling, a mild torque-converter effect.

John

And spend the next 30 to 90 days in the stockade for striking a government employee? :(

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