9/11 Happened Because US was Too Stupid To Fortify Cockpit Doors

Planning for the best shot at clear weather over the areas if you have to fly visually doesn't seem like extremely high-level planning to me, but OK

There have been real examples of passengers getting involved.

Sylvia.

"My granpa is worth more than this plane!"

Some of the other passengers were pretty funny "Yeah bro. You tell 'em what's up!" and handled it pretty well given the circumstances, but if he'd made a go at the door he'd have been treated a lot worse. A teenager was killed on a domestic flight in the US not long after 9/11 who tried to do that.

Unlike El Al's legitimately stringent security TSA is a joke, they've never stopped anything. Locking doors was the only worthwhile "innovation" derived from 9/11 for the US airline industry, everything else security theater/way to charge more fees.

"Shadayim! Shadayim!" -- Jeff

I was just on a plane where about an hour before landing an attendant pulled out a serving cart and put it across the isle in the front galley. Another attendant did something at a touch screen and opened the cockpit door letting out a member of the cockpit crew who went into the bath room. When he emerged it did something at the touch screen and swapped with another member of the cockpit crew. On his emergence from the head he swapped with the attendant and she helped to stow the serving cart. Each time the cockpit door opened I could easily see into the cockpit. Seems like a weak spot in security. Security as strong as the pilot's bladder.

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Since 9/11, a *whole host* of new security measures have been taken to eliminate the risk of a repeat. Locked and reinforced cockpit doors are just one small part.

...... Phil

Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Perfect place to issue a special little curare dart to the air crews and attendants.

One jab and seconds later you are paralyzed... maybe for life.

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Instead of a 9mm Glock. Which does work, if you get enough hits in.

..... Phil

Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:ca91b2ad-7117-420c- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

As usual you missed the point. We are talking about a pressurized air cabin at 35k plus feet up. nobody gotz no Glocks or any other

There are no full weight, full velocity rounds in use by any air marshalls anywhere.

Curare does work. Cops would rather dump a clip of deadly rounds into you than a disabling curare dart solution.

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And a 9mm does no real harm to an airplane.

** Bullshit.

...... Phil

Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:74ac3aa0-1347-4da6- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

The discussion was about thwarting an attack aboard a plane, dippity doo da.

Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:74ac3aa0-1347-4da6- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

You're an idiot. They are high velocity rounds and they'll go right through a human target and out the cabin wall.

You ain't real bright, boy.

tirsdag den 14. september 2021 kl. 01.43.43 UTC+2 skrev snipped-for-privacy@decadence.org:

DecadentLinux. = rabid psycho .

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Try LEARNING to read you f****ng nut case.

...... Phil

I have to agree with DecadedBrainMatter on this one, although it will depend upon which kind of round is used; an FMJ round yes, a hollow-point no.

News flash: the pilots need to use the restroom, too. This is now the procedure for blocking the aisle while they do that. The attendants hate having to do this, but those are the rules.

Lasse Langwadt Christensen snipped-for-privacy@fonz.dk wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

But they are not fitted with standard rounds.

See how many seconds it takes you to find that out.

Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Sure, chump. If YOU were to read what I wrote in your precious *sub topic*, you would have noted my mention of flight crew, so it was specifically about handling a problem in flight.