Nominal voltage of zinc chloride cell

Feb 27, 2008 24 Replies

I am in the Uk and recently bought some budget zinc chloride AAA cells. I was surprised they has a no-load voltage of 1.65v. A different brand has a voltage of 1.69v.



Isn't that rather high? How can the manufacturers cram such a high potential?



I did a few checks on some AAA cells.... Budget zinc chloride1: no load = 1.65v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.44v



Budget zinc chloride2: no load = 1.69v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.45v



part-used Duracell M3 alkyline: no load = 1.45v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.56v



part-used Energizer NiMH rechargeable: no load = 1.33v; after 15secs at 150mA = 1.24v


Not too sure what this shows about thos zinc chloride! Any observations?


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My observation would be someone gave you a digital voltmeter for xmas and you didn't know what else to do with it?

Sure. What happens when you put them upside down?

The polarity changes! Whouuww!

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See the ANSI standard for primary cells - the 2001 version downloadable from here:-

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max open circuit voltage for a Zinc Carbon/Chloride is 1.8V per cell

You can't rely on a little load at 150ma, why not try 0.5 - 1 amp? You will see a better picture, right now you see gray picture. Not a good source to make a determination. Repeat the test several times to make sure your meter is out of wax.

...Jim Thompson

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Good guess, I was going to say his meter is out of wax.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Bastards.

| > Isn't that rather high? How can the manufacturers cram such a high | > potential? | >

| > I did a few checks on some AAA cells.... | > Budget zinc chloride1: | > no load = 1.65v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.44v | >

| > Budget zinc chloride2: | > no load = 1.69v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.45v | >

| > part-used Duracell M3 alkyline: | > no load = 1.45v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.56v | >

| > part-used Energizer NiMH rechargeable: | > no load = 1.33v; after 15secs at 150mA = 1.24v | >

| >

| > Not too sure what this shows about thos zinc chloride! Any | > observations? | | | | You can't rely on a little load at 150ma, why not try 0.5 - 1 amp? You will | see a better picture, right now you see gray picture. Not a good source to | make a determination. Repeat the test several times to make sure your | meter is out of wax. | Perhaps he should measure the beam current of a 26" TV tube with his new toy.

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I would lay odds that "Jim Thompson" didn't actually write...

as he is a native English speaker, and the idiot whose best use of time seems to be to try to spoof other people clearly isn't.

Look at page 6 of this document. There is a perfectly good technical explanation for the shape of the discharge curve, but I can't tell you. We wouldn't want the terrorists to get their hands on this information, would we?

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Dangerous Bill

The standard costs between 68 and 75 bucks, per section. Your link is to the "scope of" summary.

RL

Hey Rat, I won't disagree with you Rat Bastard, I love your cute name.......Heehee.......Dontchaknow?....... I can still do business with you, pls see details of my work below:

Regards..

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Bastards.

Dunno if I can trust Duracell, their 2-hr charger took 8-9 hrs to charge

2500ma batteries, and the universities are full of hypers.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Rat Bastards.

So it is. Best try here then:-

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This is for the 2001 version : for 2005 you must pay the bucks

Yes, you bought a Chinese voltmeter.

P.

No problem! He can use a big ole screwdriver to pry a chunk out of each ear, and he'll be all set for another couple months.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

Hey, I want some of those "alkyline" cells - the voltage gets higher when you use them!

Hmmm, 8% rise over 15 seconds. That's about double the voltage every couple of minutes. By the end of the day, I'd have more volts than I'd ever use.

Peter

Be careful. If you draw too much current from them, the resulting ionization flash will melt everything in your house.

DB

Whatsamatta poor soldier? No friend? Can't help it? too lonely? Your big problem is, you're such a dumbfuck chipmunk follower. And no God is not blessing America as you asked. Do you know why? You guys sinned against God Big time, you killed million innocents and you do not count them.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Bastards.

Yawn. What a patheitc forgery.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

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