Does this exist...

I'll try to be more careful with my postings and keep them v4 compatible (a nice "save as" feature of v7). ...Jim Thompson

Mine is not allowing it, Jim. The settings button is grayed out.

Is there something in 'Preferences' that I need to set or unset as the case may be? I'd like to also save PDF's with backwards compatibility.

Thanks,

Bill

File, Save As (required before next step)...

Reduce File Size, Make Compatible With ...Jim Thompson

So it's a 'Reduce File Size' feature, not of 'Save As'. ;-)

Guess I was doing it all along. LOL

Thank you,

Bill Garber of Garberstreet Electronics

BTW, at the other side of the spectrum, apparently the I7 hyperthreading works really, really well on LTSPICE. Can't wait to pair that up with Win7 64 bit.

Foxit reads my pdf's fine, and openoffice is sufficient for me to produce them.

I am _so_ happy for you ;-) ...Jim Thompson

Windows only allows one program to be associated with a file extension. DUH!

Imagine that!

At any time with most files, one can right click on the file and select "Open with" to select a different program for association or with which to run it.

Worked very nicely. With one exception, "upgraded" programs create files that are incompatible with older versions of the "same" program; it is rare that a program allows one to create files fit for other versions, as well as rare that the newer version even reads (some of the) olcer version files. The exception is PKZIP / Winzip; so far it seems that it makes no difference in reading or writing (between an old DOS ver 2.04g Feb 1993 and WinZip 8.1 SR-2 2001?). Compatible across the time spectrum and use spectrum; incredible!

Excel 2007 does a fine job of making backward compatible, as well as co-compatible workbooks.

Also, if one makes a new, 2k7 file and attempts to open it with 2k3, it will prompt you for the DL of the compatibility code so that 2k3 can open

Not to mention you can save from Word 2k7 in Word97-2k3 format.

As for Acrobat, I'm using 7 and you can make version 4 compatible files and considering (free) Acrobat Reader 6 was the last Windows98 version that's a fair amount of backwards compatibility.

I couldn't remember off hand so I pulled out an old Compaq Contura notebook with WFW 3.11 and the last Acrobat Reader for that was 3. But it read the posted PDF just fine anyway.

What a blast from the past. 8 meg RAM, 4 bit color... woohoo! and sound (such as it is) faked by software modulating the beep speaker. Calmira installed to make it 'look like' (sorta) Windows95.

As I stated above, it has no problem creating a backward compatible workbook.

I am using the latest and greatest, like 9 or 10 or whatever. I do not wait around like the Win 95 first release Luddite dopes do.

WFW 3.11 was a great little ship. I sailed it for years on many a Sea.

I had a 286 the drove a mono card and a 720x640 Hi Res Ball 12 Volt Green mono CRT for my first box. It started out with a 10MB Tandon original Full Ht HD and 2MB RAM and no math co-processor. I was lucky to get it for $200.

I paid nearly $600 for my first 16MB block of RAM for a 386 I had.

I paid nearly $600 for my first SCSI 1GB Full Ht HD, which I referred to as my "Black Hole" at the time. My how those times have changed.

At least the files are bigger for a reason. The images are higher resolution :-) Now, don't go reading into this statement... ;-)

As you stated above was Excel, not Word.

In reality that doesn't matter because the 'new format' is Open XML and used for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint but the average user probably doesn't know nor care about format details so I mentioned it for their benefit.

On reading 2k7 files with older versions, the compatibility 'code', as you put it, (MS calls it a 'compatibility pack'), is available for Office 2000 and up but only if running Windows 2k and up. It's not supported on the Win9x based systems even though versions up to OfficeXP (2002) were.

For Save As in the older format, the back to '97 applies to all three as that was the first year of the then 'new' format used through 2k3. Or, you can operate natively in 'compatibility' mode also setting that as the default save.

And there are a host of other compatibility options, such as MS Works format.

Well, goodie for money bags you. These things aren't free, you know, and my interneten boxen gets the older versions.

The "latest and greatest" is Acrobat 9 (or CS4 if you're using one of the suites), which I have on the workstation. It goes back to version

Yep. The 'good ole days'.

I keep it on a couple of old machines that aren't useful for much else as a reminder and I still like my AfterDark Star Trek screen saver.

Somewhere around here I've got my original XT too, and the Atari 800, and the Sinclair. The Sinclair makes for an amusing paper weight, not much different than when it was new, but Atari Space Battle is still fun.

My first box was a Nova 2/10 mini-computer with 64k core RAM and 2

Hacking in a junked Hewlett Packard high speed tape reader wasn't very difficult but a printer was out of reach, as was any really 'useful' software (unless you wanted to operate a chemical plant) but the sucker worked.

Hehe. Yeah. I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the cat's meow.

Oh, I'm sure you mean high resolution, false color, stellar mapping ;)

You have to DL Mame.

Then, you need to DL the now 130 GB + ROM archive of every upright video game you ever saw, including the now working Laser Disc based coin-ops. You can get away with about a 35Gb archive that gets you about

The neat part is that it emulates nearly every cpu you ever saw, used, worked with, etc, etc, etc, and they are ALL in separate code modules for easy examination and learning from. Most popular upright coin-op cpu as I recall was the Z80.

That is the Windows versions front end. You can compile your own under Linux or any other platform if you know your way around makefiles.

You need ROMs too, and those are on binary newsgroups like:

alt.binaries.emulators.mame

and you can find torrents of entire archives to get started with, which is good if it is well seeded. A good example:

Hahahah... Two birds, one stone from my pov. That monitor on my first one was still in the cardboard box it got shipped in, and I still have it that way. I only needed to hook up one com cable, and one 12V source. I wonder if DVI has signals that could drive it as a second monitor... heheh that would be cool.

That is pretty neat. Pulling partially loaded racks out of dumpsters must be fun too. Just happened to have your truck with you, eh?

I have a 10MB Tandon, then the 16MB, then the zone sectored format that bumped it to 22MB IIRC,then the 32MB zone sectored

No... Rusty and Edie's :-P

I actually remember BBS's pretty fondly.

Yes, I love the Hubble stuff.

I also love fractals. I had "FracTools" back when everyone was at 16 color EGA, then VGA. It was the bee's knees. It had advantages over the current apps too, so I am going to try and revive it inside of a DOSBox session or such. It had like a Gem (OS) front end or something. Most current GUIs puke on it when I try to run it.

Thanks.

Yes, I know about Mame but I'm not much of a gamer.

Good idea for someone who is, though.

Being preoccupied with the excitement of having acquired the thing it didn't dawn on me at first, till I wondered why it was getting so damn hot in the room. hehe.

I dunno but a lot of those were sync on green and DVI analog is separate sync. Could make a combiner, I suppose, but that's a bit of work for not much return.

Hehe. No, I didn't, and don't, own a truck. I had to locate a co-worker with one.

I caught wind the thing was going to be tossed out so I 'coordinated' with the disposal unit on a time they could place it in the dumpster for me to pick right back out. But it had to go in first to be 'officially' trashed.

I've got some 10 meggers for my PDP-11 but I don't remember the brand.

Well, mine was certainly nothing like that one. It ran on an Atari

Hmm. Well, you can download the 8086 GEM stuff.

Bullshit. It is common with big name applications.