Does this comparator exist....

Dec 30, 2012 16 Replies

Does this comparator exist....



Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value, either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?



I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-) ...Jim Thompson



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How about a TL431? ;)

If you want something faster, there's the MCP65R41T.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Nope. I would have to add stuff to make that work.

I need a comparator, with a couple of volts of common-mode range, ideally with an adjustable difference between + and - inputs at the switching point, but I can live with something fixed at between 300mV and 500mV.

Seriously! A Joerg part ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Can you do anything with this window comparator?

Cheers

Right concept, but I need differential inputs, basically switch when...

Vin1 > Vin2 + delta

Both Vin1 and Vin2 can move ...Jim Thompson

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Not a Joerg part, because if it did find one he'd complain about it being "boutique".

Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com

RS485 receivers might do the trick... but no variable delta.... delta is around 500mV.... ? Maxim do a range...

Sno-o-o-o-ort, ROTFLMAO >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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Good idea. I'll check 'em out. Thanks! ...Jim Thompson

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Yeah, but he considers a 555 a boutique part.

max9000 plus four resistors to make a subtractor ?

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Lots of LVDS-to-CMOS receivers have some built-in offset, ca 100 mV. All the ones that we've tested behave like good r-r comparators. Cheap and fast.

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If you trust Maxim to maintain supplies.

-- "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." (Richard Feynman)

If you need the inputs high-impedance, this means an instrument amplifier (i.e. two op amps, or three) followed by a comparator (a third op amp, or a real comparator).

And if the inputs can be less 'ideal', you can use an emitter resistor and a transistor to convert delta-V to I, then a resistor on the collector to convert I to V, and a comparator.

Finally, if you look at current-sense gizmos (Zetex ZXCT1009), the accuracy/thermal drift can be made better than that transistor V-to-I, but it's still a three terminal device like a transistor. Don't know how inexpensive it is, though.

That's just an ordinary comparator with some creative feedback depending on how much range you need: Please view in a fixed-width font such as Courier.

. . V+ . RF3 >> R | . [RF1} . | . .----[RF3]---+ V1 > V2 + VB1 . | | | - - - . | | \ | | | . V1 >--------+--[R/2]--+--|+ \ [RF2] | . | | \ | | | . [R] | > ---+----> | . | | / | | . V2 >---[R]--+------------|- / | - - - V1< V2 +VB2 . | / --------------- . . . . .

I don't know of a part like that. The simplest solution I can think of is a diode and resistor added to the front end of an ordinary comparator(assuming your signals are not hi-Z). Art

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Damn. I wasn't paying attention and replied from a different account and "Fred" probably isn't going to make it thru your filters. This should. Art

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