We need an engineer for oscilloscopes?

This is an Australian newsgroup. Unless you pay for someone to come over I think you're out of luck.

The timing of this post is perfect, I'm just watching a Cheech and Chong movie.

Regrettably,aus.electronics readers are a little far away. However, the following links may be of value.

you can modify a cheap microwave oven to give them some of their own medicine but you will have to let the waves coming on the power lines into your home and convert them into a wave you can control don't let them take you a spectrum analyser is better than an oscilloscope for detecting nasty EMR

"Peter Howard" wrote in message news:Yiyif.5595$ snipped-for-privacy@news-server.bigpond.net.au... : : wrote in message : news: snipped-for-privacy@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... : >

: > Oscilloscopesmessageboard" Oscilloscope: An electronic instrument that produces instantaneous : > trace(s) on the screen of a cathode-ray tube or display corresponding : > to oscillations of voltage or current presented to its input(s) over : > time. : > Hello. I am posting this because I am interested in finding an : > oscilloscope engineer in the Pennsylvania or New York State area who : > could install for us a oscilloscope with field meters which could : > register fields hitting at least 3 to 4 walls of our home. We have : > fields hitting our home regularly that are hurting our health, and also : > harming the structure of our home, and the paint on the walls. when : > not hooked up to an antenna; such as squares in a pattern that changes, : > and other things. : > I have reported this to the FCC, and although they feel that such : > problems are bothersome, we should report such things to the local : > police. The shape of the wave shows up as a Sine wave, I think, a S : > wave on it's side, also registers as static, also buzzes like bees, : > also appears to have several forms that show up on a small television : > have reported that we have fields hitting our home to the local police, : > but they seem fairly clueless that such things not only could be a : > problem, not that they do not believe in oscilloscopes registering : > anything- rather they really don't have to work with any fields as a : > problem usually, so they really don't have that much to say about it. : > We have to be the ones to show the fields, is the obvious thing, but I : > do not understand oscilloscopes, nor have I found that they seem to : > have the capacity to register fields hitting walls and penetrating the : > walls. Are such oscilloscopes available? I have had something : > recommended as a field meter, but I need a plotting (on paper to be : > saved) oscilloscope that shows the sources (appears to be neighbors- : > one right next door who has just increased his wave so that it is like : > a weight on our house structure and heads) : > I would like to register the waves on the various walls of our home, : > and plot this on paper to show to others. Is this possible in the : > electronics world? : >

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Ken,

I may be casting unfounded aspersions on the original poster, but there is a worrying percentage of the population of the United States that don't realise that the internet actually extends beyond the good 'ol USA.

Also the descriptions given sound like something from the foil hat brigade - if the waves were strong enough to harm the structure of the home (and the paint) they wouldn't be able to complain about the health effects 'cause they'd already be dead! They don't need an oscilloscope engineer - what they need is a structural engineer to fix the home foundations, a handyman to paint the walls properly, and to see someone about their hypochondria.

Ciao

Kevin

brigade -

Hiya. Well aware, but thought I'd be nice for once. Not sure why - must be a character defect. It's always a little surprising when you see how some just how cuckoo so people are. Makes you realise the frailty of the human condition.

Ken

You could contact Dr Melfi, shes only just over the border in New Jersey.

Perhaps you could attach a temperature sensor to your foil hat and see if there's any heating when the waves hit?

: : Perhaps you could attach a temperature sensor to your foil hat and see if : there's any heating when the waves hit? : now then, you know that would be futile, as the waves are reflected, not absorbed.

That's what they'd like you to think.

oh. you mean "those" waves!

but those are particles anyway and wouldnt be detected

: > now then, you know that would be futile, as the waves are reflected, : > not absorbed. : : That's what they'd like you to think. : : :

I think using an oscilloscope would give false readings.

Ideally you need to find out if the waves are having any real effect, and whether the aluminium-foil hat needs to be tuned. You can do it yourself, based on the latest proven methods that evaluating how mobile phones damage our health. So follow these steps carefully. You may need another person to help collect the data.

1. The world health authority has established so-called safe levels of energy that the human brain can absorb from mobile telephones. The way of assessing this is to measure change in a brain-tissue simulating liquid.

1. The brain-tissue simulating liquid is very complex to make and the equipment to measure the effects is very expensive. This expense and complexity prevents objective third parties from doing real tests and finding out how bad these things are for our health and thus prevent factual evidence being presented in support of claims for damage. This is also why big business doesn't want elegant, simple and stylish solutions such as foil products, when they sell high-cost accessories that are supposed to limit the damage their other products do to us. Only mobile phone companies can afford to own the special expensive equipment and the results of their tests is anything but objective. The test I explain below is very simple and after performing it there is no question one would never again suffer from the effects of brain damaging radiation waves.

2. The test should be done twice, with and without foil protection fitted, but unprotected exposure should be limited to the minimum necessary.

1. The use of infra-red ear thermometers in diagnosing illness is very common and accepted practice. My test is based on this well documented method but deep tissue effects cannot be uncovered with such equipment. So it is therefore essential that the tester also obtain a high quality stainless steel meat thermometer.

2. The test location must be temperature controlled and subject to a uniform electromagnetic field. Any McDonalds offering a wireless internet access point would fill this criteria. An Intel Centrino logo on the window serves as verification of suitable radio waves being contained therein.

1. Test Procedure - Surface tissue affects of wave radiation: a. Enter the chosen McDonalds. b. Note the orientation of laptop computers being used. c. Sit at a table near the greatest concentration of computers d. Face perpendicular to the screens of most of the computers e. Insert infra-red thermometer (IRT) into one ear f. If the IRT doesn't fit, rotate it 180 degrees horizontally and try again. g. Record temperature. h. Remove foil protector and repeat on the other ear i. Remember to rotate IRT 180 degrees. j. Replace foil protection. h. Compare results. This shows there is a difference.

2. Test Procedure - Deep tissue affects of wave radiation: This follows on immediately after the above. To ensure the test results stand up to scientific scrutiny, on no account partake of McDonalds hot or cold beverages or food between or during test sequences. a. Place tip of meat thermometer (MT) slightly into ear canal. b. Refer 6f in case of difficulty. c. Smoothly as possible push the MT 150 mm (+/- 1 mm) into the ear. d. Have your assistant record the temperature after 30 seconds or when the twitching stops (excessive twitching will influence the reading). e. Those without an assistant can ask the person at the next table to take the reading (remember ask for help before starting the tests of section 7.) f. Withdraw MT and wipe clean. g. Ignore screams and retching of customers, its just the food. h. Remove foil protector and repeat on the other ear i. Remember to rotate MT 180 degrees. j. Compare results. This really shows there is a difference.

It may be difficult to accurately document the results of the final test, especially if running the protocol alone. Nonetheless this information is important and in the public interest (since it may keep them out of McDonalds for a while). Any information you now lack the capacity to interpret will be taken by the police and/or perhaps interpreted at coronial inquest. Either way the result of your tests will be headline news.

PS: The efficacy of foil protection cannot be down-played. Most people who have performed the above test would never be caught without one. Make sure yours is always properly tuned.

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Fraid so. This may be a case for a doctor. There is deep seated paranoia here, unless you are near some secret installation giving off radiations. They'd have to be pretty powerful to peel off paint. This is not impossible, but most unlikely. You need a good wideband reciver and a spectrum analyser but at those levels you hardly need an instrument. I would only be worried if right next door there was huge enclosed box with