RPi.GPIO-0.7.0 - a few questions about how it adds the PWM class

TNP,

Entitled to what exactly ? Me expecting to be dealt with just as the person expects me to deal with them ? Something else ? Or actually anything at all for that matter ?

Ah yes, the good-old "absense of knowledge equals stupidity" attack. Luckily I can gain knowledge. You on the other hand will probably never lose that attitude - which makes you caustic in all kinds of environments.

Kiddo, if you can't "win" (do not understand or just disagree with the others POV) than you could do a lot better than to go on a personal attack.

Regards, Rudy Wieser

Thankyou for the vote of confidence l-)

I literally said ?It doesn?t create an instance of anything?. Back on the 3rd, Dennis told you when instances (of the PWM type) were actually created. He also quoted the documentation of PyType_GenericNew, clarifying that it was a function, another thing that apparently only registered when Steve told you.

If you had mentioned that you thought it was a class then things might have gone a bit quicker. The idea that you?d have that particular misconception simply didn?t occur to me because (1) you?d already seen the documentation for it, so if you?d been paying attention you?d know what is was and (2) there is no such thing as a class in the C language.

I?m not asking that you ?just understand?, I am asking that you pay attention to what is being said. When there?s one right answer to a question then it?s inherent that there?s going to be some repetitiveness in any discussion about it, because the right answer doesn?t change.

Richard,

I already knew its shouldn't, but could not figure out why. That was my whole doubt problem!

No, that "its a function" part was rather inconsequential. What was was what " = PyType_GenericNew" (regardles of latter being a class definition or function) was returning.

I assumed it was returning an instance, which did not match up with the "yes, you can move that assignment onto the table", which confused me. And I mentioned that (it supposedly returning an instance) several times.

But although I was told wrong there, I can't seem to remember that I've been told /what actually got returned/ - until Ahem/Steve mentioned that it its a pointer. Which directly made sense.

And I said the same for the exact same reason back to you. :-)

I did not expect you to change your answer, but I /did/ expect you to explain it and/or pick up on my misconception and replace it with the correct one (I think that both would have led to the same result).

Bottom line, it looks like we both missed clues about what the other tried to say or even explicitily said. The will in each direction was there, but the connection failed (which most likely frustrated you as much as me) . :-\

Regards, Rudy Wieser

Ahem: It was you that critcised RichardPERSONALLY.

Not me.

Dont compound that with hypocrisy.

Frankly if I get much more of the current snoflake 'I dont understand and that's *your* fault, for not explaining ' I will vomit.

In short, communication is difficult and requires work, patience and a little luck to succeed.

Strange and unhelpful attitude, everyone has problems understanding some things and usually the best way past those problems is varying explanations until the blind spot that prevents understanding is illuminated. Very often that blind spot is invisible to the explainer and the explainee won't be able to point it out until after understanding has been achieved which is why spotting the blind spot is the art in teaching.

That being said nobody is required to be a teacher, or to try and help others so if you don't want to then don't.

I didnt really follow the technical ins and outs but it SEEMED to be an argument that hinged on not understanding that a certain sort of declaration in a compiled language allocates nothing.

Wow. "Good people on both sides." Barf.

Alexandre,

I'm sorry. I can imagine that one or both of us being "bad" would have given you much more entertainment. A blamefest with a sidedish of mudslinging perhaps ?

I hope you can still enjoy your popcorn though (just turn the TV on and find some political debate) :-)

Regards, Rudy Wieser

Steve,

Very nicely put. :-)

Regards, Rudy Wieser