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Re: La loi de Moore est elle encore valide ?
On 14/01/17 11:41, DV wrote:
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de 140-160W; on repasse progressivement dans les 80-40W. Dans un portable,
on peut tourner dans les 9-12W.



des CPU sont disponibles en desktop, avec performances identiques aux


En gros.

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On 14/01/17 12:13, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

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j'ai entendu parler de 40%.


jamais avoir besoin d'utiliser la marge.


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l'introduction du HT dans le x86 ... bah ... y avait pas encore de HT dans
le x86 :) (Lapalisse, je t'aime).





Phenom II 965 (2010).

Je ne l'ai pas dans les rPi ni mon gros smartphone: ARMv7.











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serait horriblement lent)...


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C'est ce que j'avais cru comprendre (et constater avec mes P4), surtout  




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de x86 originel multicoeur, donc parler de coeur pour un x86 n'a pas de  
sens.




Le premier Pentium est un 586, comme le MMX. C'est le Pentium Pro qui  
est le premier 686, suivi par le Pentium II, le premier Celeron puis le  
Pentium III.

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L'hyperthreading est inutile pour certains calculs, il l'est pour d'autres.



Re: La loi de Moore est elle encore valide ?
On 14/01/17 22:49, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

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... donc, des erreurs entre GB et GiB, c'est juste des milliers de fois
par jour.

Nan, moi je dirais que tu as de la chance qu'elle soit construite
physiquement avec une puce de 8GB, et pas une puce de 8Gb ... (google, tu
trouvera facilement des puces 2GB vendues comme 4GB. Oui ... un



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Donc, ils ne font cet effort que dans les SSDs haut de gamme; jamais dans



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HT restait vitale pour rester devant AMD. Le temps que les logiciels de

























dans la semoule. Il fallait qu'il revienne.









de temps pour porter le module HT du P4 (station/serveur) vers les








que les ARM (Acer, eeePC).


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Le vieux temps.








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7,47 Gio.




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De fait au moins certaines clefs USB font du nivellement d'usure :
http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/All-SanDisk-USB-Flash-Drives/Does-my-USB-Flash-Drive-have-wear-leveling/td-p/339714





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On 16/01/17 21:52, pehache wrote:
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de bras.












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est dans le lecteur ?

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On 17/01/17 21:32, pehache wrote:
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parlait sur les forums rPi.

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technologie.


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Pourquoi veux-tu absolument qu'il y ait une erreur ?


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En fait je comprends ce que tu veux dire : la loi de Moore, qui parlait  
initialement du nombre de transistors, est toujours plus ou moins  


comme avant.

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On 18/01/17 07:56, pehache wrote:
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Mais, ce qui compte pour tout le monde, tant les particuliers que les











sur la lithographie, et les jonctions; et dans quoi d'autre on a



probablement le premier aspect vital d'un smartphone.




(flash, LED ...).





conducteur dedans. Pourtant, depuis 15 ans, les condensateurs ont

sur les transistors (les effets capacitifs dans le transistors ne sont








=> ils ont permis la miniaturisation, et la baisse des prix. Certaines



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Moore telle qu'on l'entend habituellement parlant des CPU et rien d'autre.




Re: La loi de Moore est elle encore valide ?
On 28/01/17 18:44, pehache wrote:

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XDR ... CPU ? T'es sur ?

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Ca illustre parfaitement que justement, le consommateur actuel de



pour l'utilisateur final, et que l'aspect qui compte varie avec la demie


initiale.

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Non, plus vraiment, en tous cas pas sur tout. Les gains de puissance  







Les grands fabricants de PC ont des gammes qu'ils vendent partout avec  






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