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"We"? Are you an expert in magnetodynamics?

If you spin up certain types of self-exciting generators, the polarity of the field can be random from run to run.

The geological evidence for field reversals is overwhelming.

Show us some links.

John

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The earth is not a permanent magnet. The earth's core is not ferromagnet. The earth's core is an electromagnet without ferromagnetism. The earth is an electromagnet. I think that is what he meant. If that is what he meant, then I am with the "moron". I am a "moron" just like him. We "morons" are right on this topic. You are a troll who is hopelessly wrong. The earth is an electromagnet without ferromagnetism.

"bald-faced".

No it's not. The Earth is a huge tuned circuit, oscillating/ringing.

Hope This Helps! Rich

And apparently it's an excellent conductor. :-)

Cheers! Rich

Magnetosphere strength doesn't change.

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Could you please, please give references to these "self-excited generators." I know such things are possible, I would just like to give them an reference describing experiments with the same.

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Sure. Google for Dan Lanthrop at U. Maryland and Peter Olson of The Johns Hopkins University.

Both do experiments in magnetohydrodynamics and self exciting dynamos.

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It does. I've already pointed out references to this effect.

You seem to have an inability to accept new information that conflicts with your preconceived notions.

Repeating the same erroneous information does not make it true.

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You might try googling "self-excited generator"

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Likewise the fraudulent Geology, the real History of Mankind is completely blurred by the JIC ( judeo-islamo-christian) sects to not upset their views on the creation of the world & foremost not leading to questioning in relation to previous directions of Earth spin & the high civilizations which existed before such much recent & terrible upheaval took place.... the Sphinx & the great 3 Pyramids being some of what remains of thriving said civilizations & the start again of all Humanity from few poles of survivals to reach the billions of people here now ... all in a mere 12 000 years. Universities brainwashed fools are mind programmed to avoid asking themselves the right questions & Experts indeed in Over-information, Non-information & Misleading-information. The Real or True knowledge which you are bringing forth does not interest those specialists, since the greater vision it opens bring them down to realize that their normal operating system is at the mole level, and to raise up their tunnel vision would certainly tear up the patiently & painful fabric of their illusory approach of the reality.

In this line here for govern some of the dogmas underlying the Fraudulent Geology :

1) Dogma of the creation or accretion of the Earth on present orbit... the principle being of course applied to all planets & satellites either again through the miracle a Magic Wand or the equally miracle of a Big Bang 2) Dogma of attraction of banging masses on a 30 km/ h moving target ( this for Earth) while non rotative aerolithes have no magnetic field & are then not dipole ...hence repelling each others as ALL non- rotative masses do. .. and this what the Newton plagiarist failed to see, to wit the distinguo to be made between rotative & non-rotative Cosmic bodies. 3) Dogma ofStability of Earth & all planets on Ecliptics till Judgment day 4) Dogma Column of Ages established from the degradation ( or reduction) of fossils to formation of the immense Karst reliefs or in clear of all carbonates sediementation of the world. Hutton & Lyell & that imbecile retard of Darwin later founding all their conclusions on the premises indeed that animals bones being carbonates (CO3) in the first place cannot be degraded at the contact of air to return the CO2 to its original gas state, but will compose by piling each others by consecutive layers the immense strata of Limestone, Dolomites as well as Gypsum (related) observed in billions of tons through the whole world. The fact then that whole so-called Scientific Community beuuulieves, in as a mob of sheep in a paddock, such evident inept theories is a clear indication amongst many that the so called Intellectual Elites have degenerated to a point of being unable to think philosophically 5) Dogma of Ice ages & Glaciatons + the one of erosion of Intrusive & Extrusive rocks by water. This is a physical impossibility indeed considering the pressure & temperature of fusion of Ice ( 1 bar, 0=B0C) as well as considering the process of weathering of Mountainous faces attributed by tradesless Universities parasites to the mechanical action of Ice upon material 7 grade higher on the Mohs scale ... his is just like asking a fitter or lathe operator to machine hard steel with a lump of soap ... Such evident incoherence of course is beyond the reach of Oxford, ANU, MIT, Curtin etc Universities fatmouthed Cretins 6) Dogma of the origin of water being in fact the Ouroboros ( snake bitting its tail) & related to the Vitellius cycle 2000 years old primitive observation, while NOT providing any explanation as to where it comes from in the first place... The consequences of such ignorance being the present & inescapable transition of Australia from a live sustaining land to a Great Sandy Desert Island ... this resulting of course by those incompetent & indeed again Universities brainwashed Political Imbeciles in charge of affairs down under !

With best regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud Australia Mining Pioneer Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper & Gold Mine) Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

for background info.

"True Geology" Foundation Document "Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity

It never goes "sideways," in the way I think you mean. The majority of the magnetic field energy is in the inductor. The inductor is a coil of wire. The magnetic field is parallel to the axis of the coil. The magnetic field direction can point one way or the opposite way in the coil, but it is always parallel to the axis. The magnetic field amplitude changes sinusoidally varies sinusoidaly in time. Contrary to what some people are saying here, the magnetic field does vanish periodically. It reappears moving in the opposite direction. Yes, magnetic fields can vanish in an LC circuit. The energy doesn't vanish when the magnetic field vanishes. When the magnetic field "vanishes," the energy is stored in the capacitor. The capacitor contains an electric field. When the magnetic field vanishes in the inductor, the electromagnetic energy is stored in the capacitor. When the electric field in the capacitor vanishes, the electromagnetic energy is stored in the inductor. But for heat losses, the electromagnetic energy is conserved at all times. However, it moves from the electric field to the magnetic field. If there is resistance in the circuit (an LRC circuit), electromagnetic energy is slowly turned to heat energy in the resistor. Therefore, the oscillation requires energy to be put into the LC circuit if it is to oscillate for a long time. This energy can come through in a variaty of ways. An AC generator can be in series with the inductor and capacitor. The resonant frequency of the LC circuit is the inverse of the product of inductance (L) and capacitance (C). There are variations in this model. An LRC circuit can have a bistable mode. So the inductor can be forced to "flip" at frequencies other than the resonant frequency. Nothing in the description of the LRC circuit tells you how the inductor works. Many inductors do not have any ferromagnetic material in the coil. Some inductors have a "soft" ferromagnetic material in the coil. An antennae can be in series with the inductor and capacitor. The LRC circuit will pick energy out the radio waves that are resonant with the circuit. Therfore, even if the radio waves have a random amplitude, the LRC circuit witll "ring" at its resonant frequency. The LRC circuit is used as a "band pass filter," picking out some energy out of the noise. The earth dynamo model proposes that the core of the earth is somewhat analogous to an LRC circuit with antennae. The core is somewhat like an inductor, as it has this magnetic field. The core is also like a capacitor, one the assumption there is an electric field in the core that supports an electric current. The core is like an antennae, pick up energy from the convection currents in the earths core. I think the model can be argued against in terms of the energy source for the LC circuit. The complex part of the model is the convection currents at the earths core. Do they or do they not generate energy that can be picked up by an LC circuit? However, I notice that no one is attacking that part of the model. There is just these idiotic slogans, "Marie Curie knew what she was doing!" and "Magnetic fields can not collapse to zero!" and "Magnetism doesn't exist at high temperatures!" IIt isn't that I care one way or another for the earth dynamo model. logical statements are sort of a red flag to me.

Yeah, I know that - this was directed primarily at "BURT", who seems to have no clue, with his "East to West" mumbo-jumbo.

Thanks, Rich

"Darwin123" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@o6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... On Aug 4, 7:39 pm, Rich Grise wrote:

But for heat losses, the electromagnetic energy is conserved at all times. However, it moves from the electric field to the magnetic field. If there is resistance in the circuit (an LRC circuit), electromagnetic energy is slowly turned to heat energy in the resistor. Therefore, the oscillation requires energy to be put into the LC circuit if it is to oscillate for a long time. This energy can come through in a variaty of ways. An AC generator can be in series with the inductor and capacitor. The resonant frequency of the LC circuit is the inverse of the product of inductance (L) and capacitance (C). There are variations in this model. An LRC circuit can have a bistable mode. So the inductor can be forced to "flip" at frequencies other than the resonant frequency. Nothing in the description of the LRC circuit tells you how the inductor works. Many inductors do not have any ferromagnetic material in the coil. Some inductors have a "soft" ferromagnetic material in the coil. An antennae can be in series with the inductor and capacitor. The LRC circuit will pick energy out the radio waves that are resonant with the circuit. Therfore, even if the radio waves have a random amplitude, the LRC circuit witll "ring" at its resonant frequency. The LRC circuit is used as a "band pass filter," picking out some energy out of the noise. The earth dynamo model proposes that the core of the earth is somewhat analogous to an LRC circuit with antennae. The core is somewhat like an inductor, as it has this magnetic field. The core is also like a capacitor, one the assumption there is an electric field in the core that supports an electric current. The core is like an antennae, pick up energy from the convection currents in the earths core. I think the model can be argued against in terms of the energy source for the LC circuit. The complex part of the model is the convection currents at the earths core. Do they or do they not generate energy that can be picked up by an LC circuit? However, I notice that no one is attacking that part of the model. There is just these idiotic slogans, "Marie Curie knew what she was doing!" and "Magnetic fields can not collapse to zero!" and "Magnetism doesn't exist at high temperatures!" IIt isn't that I care one way or another for the earth dynamo model. logical statements are sort of a red flag to me

Not sure why it's a red flag, but your analysis is spot on. the Earth seems to be "ringing," but the model has instability built in.

Imagine a (rigid arm) pendulum clock. It has TWO stable states. The first is with the pendulum hanging straight down. Slight perturbations will self-correct. The SECOND stable state is with the pendulum*exactly* sticking straight up. Even the slightest perturbation will move the pendulum from the second stable state back -- in oscillatory fashion -- to the first location.

Now let's tilt the clock on its back. As we do so, the system stability becomes less certain. Slight perturbations from the FIRST state can be enough to swing the pendulum toward the second state. And as the tilt approaches -- or exceeds -- 90 degrees, it is not hard to imagine a situation wherein the stable states can "flip."

Then the "unstable" second state becomes stable, and the first state becomes the unstable one.

Just like what has happened with the Earth's magnetic field every 11,500 years (recently) or so ago.

Bill Thanks

Bill.

Likewise the fraudulent Geology, the real History of Mankind is completely blurred by the JIC ( judeo-islamo-christian) sects to not upset their views on the creation of the world & foremost not leading to questioning in relation to previous directions of Earth spin & the high civilizations which existed before such much recent & terrible upheaval took place.... the Sphinx & the Great 3 Pyramids being some of what remains of thriving said civilizations & the start again of all Humanity from few poles of survivals to reach the billions of people here now ... all in a mere 12 000 years. Universities ' brainwashed fools are mind programmed to avoid asking themselves the right questions & Experts indeed in Over-informations, Non- informations & Misleading-informations... in fact intellectual Slaves & grovelling spineless Intellectual Cowards indeed The Real or True knowledge imparted by the True Geology which is brought forth does not interest those specialists, since the greater vision it opens bring them down to realize that their normal operating system is at the mole level, and to raise up their tunnel vision would certainly tear up the patiently & painful fabric of their illusory approach of the reality. In this line here for govern some of the dogmas underlying the Fraudulent Geology :

1) Dogma of the creation or accretion of the Earth on present orbit... the principle being of course applied to all planets & satellites either again through the miracle of a godly JIC 's Magic Wand or the equally miracle of a "Big Bang" ( "Gros Boum" for the French Bougredanes)

2) Dogma of attraction of banging masses on a 30 km/ s moving target ( this for the Earth) while non rotative aerolithes have no magnetic field & are then not dipole ...hence no attraction, then repelling each others as ALL non- rotative masses do. .. and this what the Newton plagiarist failed to see, to wit the distinguo to be made between rotative & non-rotative Cosmic bodies. ( a most simple application of Lenz 's law to which the Gogologists are impervious indeed)

3) Dogma of Stability of Earth & all planets on Ecliptics till Judgment day in JIC 's views or Sun blasting according to the Oxford based sci000nce of Gogology.( masquerading as Geology the world over)

4) Dogma of Column of Ages established from the degradation ( or reduction) of fossils to form the immense Karst relief or in clear all carbonates sedimentation of the world. Hutton & Lyell retards & that imbecile of Darwin later founding all their conclusions on such premises indeed. In fact animals bones being carbonates (CO3) in the first place cannot be degraded at the contact of air to return the CO2 to its original gas state & still remain in their original CO3 state to compose by piling each others by consecutive layers the immense strata of Limestone, Dolomites, as well as related sulphate Gypsum, observed in n billions of tons through the whole world. The tenet of faith is fully accepted by that whole clueless so-called Universities' brainwashed Scientific Community, which beuuulieves in blind consensus , just like a mob of sheep in a paddock, such evident inept theories. It is alone a clear indication amongst the very few True Geologists, that the so called Intellectual Elites have degenerated to a point of being unable to think philosophically

5) Dogma of Ice ages & Glaciatons + the one of erosion of Intrusive & Extrusive rocks by water. This is a physical impossibility indeed considering the pressure & temperature of fusion of Ice ( 1 bar, 0=B0C) as well as considering the process of weathering of Mountainous faces attributed by tradesless Universities parasites to the mechanical action of Ice upon material 7 grade higher on the Mohs scale ... This is just like asking a fitter or lathe operator to machine hard steel with a lump of soap ... Such evident incoherence of course is beyond the reach of Oxford, ANU, MIT, Curtin etc Universities fatmouthed Cretins of course. Such dudes setting the fashion, as well as endlessly spouting forth urbi & orbi in continuous sick flow their raving incoherent are unable to even conceive the Mechanical & Process engineering pattern leading to end products which are the rounded pebbles, Eskers & Drumlins ( of course blasting, crushing, tumbling, auto erosion, granulometry distribution according the well known True Geology proven observation of "Cyclonic Granulometric Pattern of Quaternary Deposits)

6) Dogma of the origin of water being in fact the Ouroboros ( snake biting its tail) & related to the Vitellius cycle 2000 years old primitive observation, while NOT providing any explanation as to where it comes from in the first place... The consequences of such ignorance being the present & inescapable transition of Australia from a live sustaining land to a Great Sandy Desert Island ... this resulting of course by those incompetent & indeed again True Geology ignorant Political Imbeciles in charge of affairs down under !

Of course the True Geology is aclear opening of the eyes & warning indeed that we are not on a stable orbital position but drifting now at accelerated pace on the Ecliptic away from the Sun in a Anisoberic Anisotropic Cosmic Density Atmosphere ( to keep the parallel with the Standard Atmosphere & the rising of a balloon, Mutatis Mutandis, the Earth balloon rising towards lower density & expanding in the Sun Atmosphere) But the main principles behind the True Geology will expressed at a later time... However the clear message I wish to deliver here is : Fresh Water resources are depleted more & more not only because being widely drawn upon, but really because not being refilled by their petering real sources 400 km down in the Mantle. The reduced Cosmic Pressure due to Earth drift not only will end Methane production in barren soon Oil domes but as well conduct progressively to the extinction of life through complete loss of water. In True Geology indeed, Mats is where the Earth is going, and conversely Mars is where we are a few millions years ago indeed. ( The True Geology Column of Ages is spacial e.g. the Pre Cambrian are Mercury, Venus as well intermediary previous Earth positions)

Note The True Geology breakthrough & high level work is on its way

With best regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud Australia Mining Pioneer Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper & Gold Mine) Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

for background info.

"True Geology" Foundation Document "Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity

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Quite right, dear Mr BDK !

Universities overflow with such Rabble, all the more since it's a pre- requisite to be Lecturer & especially Professor in Gogology ( the undignified level to which True Geology has drifted)

In such circumstances it is evident that the poor Freshmen do not stand a chance, and their so hard-won degrees are in fact degrees in mind-programmation .& hence in a narrow-mindedness akin to lobotomy. It is a fact indeed that most of those poor mass produced SS ( Sci000ntific Sods) are unable to even question one single mad official Gogological theories amongst the 1000s forcefully fed into their mind !

A simple question to you, Sir, do you take as well all alleged Geology spouted Urbi & Orbi by official Retards at face value ? Curious to know.

I trust that you had a pleasant week-end & enjoyed your stay at Vegas. Did you win in the final or at least made it even? If so, you are a wise man since you left in time. By the way I was watching on BBC Reporters a documentary over Last Vegas' new plan for a huge Real Estate complex right in the Town center. Have you visited the site ? Well, but do not take my word for it since it is only the one of a True Geologist ( in incredible minority then) , but something 's missing in he equation and not even considered in the BBC documentation although of utmost importance in my view. What could it be, dear Mr B. ???

Well, this is the fact that Last Vegas is going to run out of water this very year with Lake Mead reserves in free fall, and probably clocking an incredible loss of 100 ft before year end. .Yes, you are flabberggasted understandbly & I share your concern. Still, the very name of the Sin City aka Last Vegas, was a hint that it could not last. Do you agree ?

"Tempus Fugit" "Each minute wounds and the last kills" _latin expression_

Note ...and this very year on the 14th of October 2009, the powerful Southern Seas besieging the powerless Murray Darling Trickle since 11 years of DDD indeed, are going to forceful enter the late Mighty Murray-Darling River and consume in a terrible tableau the outcome of

39 years running Antipodean Collective Crimes... but not the final stage unfortunatelly for the doomed Convict-Scum-run 's poor country. My heart bleed in compassion, but still the Collective Chastisement has to be sternly implemented in application of the Divine Celtic Law of Justice.

Soon the Murray will be a arm of the Southern Sea right up 270 km inland .

With best regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud Australia Mining Pioneer

"Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times" wrote news: snipped-for-privacy@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...

Judgment day in JIC 's views or Sun blasting according to the Oxford based sci000nce of Gogology.( masquerading as Geology the world over)

indeed that we are not on a stable orbital position but drifting now at accelerated pace on the Ecliptic away from the Sun in a Anisoberic Anisotropic Cosmic Density Atmosphere ( to keep the parallel with the Standard Atmosphere & the rising of a balloon, Mutatis Mutandis, the Earth balloon rising towards lower density & expanding in the Sun Atmosphere) But the main principles behind the True Geology will expressed at a later time... However the clear message I wish to deliver here is : Fresh Water resources are depleted more & more not only because being widely drawn upon, but really because not being refilled by their petering real sources 400 km down in the Mantle. The reduced Cosmic Pressure due to Earth drift not only will end Methane production in barren soon Oil domes but as well conduct progressively to the extinction of life through complete loss of water. In True Geology indeed, Mats is where the Earth is going, and conversely Mars is where we are a few millions years ago indeed. ( The True Geology Column of Ages is spacial e.g. the Pre Cambrian are Mercury, Venus as well intermediary previous Earth positions)

It seems to me that the stable orbital positions is the simplification necessary at schools. The are the two possibilities:

1. Planets accrete and ends with the death spiral: ""The answer will become apparent in less than a decade if the planet seems to be further in a death spiral, he said. Hamilton said it is also possible that some basic physics calculations that all astronomers rely on could be dead wrong." From:
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2. Planets drift away from thy Sun.

"Lyttleton proposed the meteoroidal accretion mechanism to explain how the Earth and Moon could have been drawn together". The same aplies to planets. You propose the balloon analogy. Who is right? S*

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Dear Mr Bia=B3ek,

The True Geology is based on the UPL or Universal Pressure Law, which I am not going to define since it would give intellectual thieves an opportunity of a particular interesting break through. All I have said relative to the the True Geology hence cannot be stolen since the corner stone is missing.... This will be defined only in the coming book I am writing on the subject..

Just to say here :

1) that the process of calving of planets & in phase their satellites is on my particular approach due a critical surface tension point being reached on the Mother star, and dark body incidentally. ( a knowledge of which the Ancient Egyptians were aware since their representation of the Sun included in fact two Globes on their temples porticos: a) the dark sun or Aton also Osiris b) the white sun or Amon also Ra ... and this was taught at Alexandria by Hypatia in the Temple of Helios 2) The UPL is the key to understand what is matter & as well Gravitation, I can assure you that there is no planetary accretion, any more that there has been any Glaciations or Continental drift etc..

People are groping in the dark for answers but the UPL is also the key to so-called degravitation crafts & free energy systems. Within that paradigm such impossibilities, on the basis of what is accepted now, become evident ... I agree that within present official Physics such concepts are senseless. Further within the UPL approach all present constants become variable depending on the local gradient of energy, hence distance from Mother Star. The UPL* explains why for example the Earth orbit is a 2 foci ellipse

*UPL is an acronym I have coined a decade ago.

With best regards

jpturcaud

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I am not going to define since it would give intellectual thieves an opportunity of a particular interesting break through. All I have said relative to the the True Geology hence cannot be stolen since the corner stone is missing.... This will be defined only in the coming book I am writing on the subject..

1) that the process of calving of planets & in phase their satellites is on my particular approach due a critical surface tension point being reached on the Mother star, and dark body incidentally. ( a knowledge of which the Ancient Egyptians were aware since their representation of the Sun included in fact two Globes on their temples porticos: a) the dark sun or Aton also Osiris b) the white sun or Amon also Ra ... and this was taught at Alexandria by Hypatia in the Temple of Helios 2) The UPL is the key to understand what is matter & as well Gravitation, I can assure you that there is no planetary accretion,

But accretion has many meanings. I am writing about meteorites from comets. For example the Moon: "Lyttleton has considered the possibility that accretion of meteoritic mass by the Moon and Earth has acted to decrease the relative separation of these bodies, to oppose the separation induced by tidal friction. Contrary to Lyttleton's view, it is shown that meteoritic impact on a moon without an atmosphere results in a net loss of mass from that body, reversing the sign of the dominant contribution to the effect at present, as assumed"

It seems to me that loss/gain of mass is exces of electron dependent. We know that the Moon (and the Earth) has now the excess of electrons. In the result the Moon dust levitate (electrostatic) and go away into space. The same is with the Earth. The Earth produces the charged ice dust and loss the water.

Here come the important Question: Had the Earth the excess of electrons always? If no, the Earth can flips from loss of water (now) to gain the ice dust. Of course the flipping of the magnetic poles and Glaciations go together. Has it sense?

etc..

People are groping in the dark for answers but the UPL is also the key to so-called degravitation crafts & free energy systems. Within that paradigm such impossibilities, on the basis of what is accepted now, become evident ... I agree that within present official Physics such concepts are senseless. Further within the UPL approach all present constants become variable depending on the local gradient of energy, hence distance from Mother Star. The UPL* explains why for example the Earth orbit is a 2 foci ellipse

*UPL is an acronym I have coined a decade ago.

Is in UPL a place for excess (or deficit) of electrons?

With best regards S*

Earlier in this thread, several questions were raised about the authenticity of magnetic flips.

I just came across an online "reprint" of a fairly definitive (for its time -- 1992) text called "Paleomagnetism: Magnetic Domains to Geologic Terranes" by Robert F. Butler.

The book containes a general intro, discusses ferromagnetic materials, how Natural Remanent Magnetism occurs, discusses sampling and measurement techniques, stability, and much more. Not only does he review flips, but also discusses how Paleomagnetism can help us understand Paleogeography and also Plate Tectonics.

Neat stuff! And FREE!

See

for downloads in pdf.

Bill