cfl's

whoever conned the govt into mandating their use must be laughing all the way to the bank. not only are they an environmental hazed, they are simply not cost effective. they don't last 10 times longer than conventional bulbs, or however many times it was supposed to be, and they cost heaps more. they emit UV radiation too.

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felix_unger wrote

The govt conned themselves...

Unlikely given that none of them are made here.

Bullshit.

Bullshit.

The best of them do.

Mine have been quite literally free.

Bullshit.

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Rod Speed

**Bollocks to all the above.

I just replaced my first two CFLs. They were in use for more than 10 years each @ around 4 hours per day each. The total amount of mercury released by all the extra coal burned exceeds the amount of mercury in each lamp by a very considerable amount. CO2 reduction, using CFLs is substantial.

I've lived in my present home for 7 years. I have more than 20 CFLs, a handful of regular incandescents, 20-odd halogens (presently being replaced by LEDs) and a 13 linear fluoros. In that time, I've replaced two CFLs (which had I transferred from my previous home - these are both very high use lamps), 6 incandescents (which see around 20 hours/year operation), 4 linear fluoros and 15 halogens (which see less than 20 hours/year operation.

UV radiation is substantially blocked by regular glass.

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Trevor Wilson

I suppose CFLs will be relaced by LEDs as the preferred home lighting in the not-too-distant future, when they drop in price.

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**They already are. I'm replacing all my halogens with LEDs. There's a drop in light output, but there's a huge number of them, so the total light available is plenty. The power savings are massive. I replaced 300 Watts of halogens with 30 Watts of LEDs (electronic transformers). As the CFLs fail, they'll be replaced with LEDs as well.
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"felix_unger"

** Australia's lighting importers could not believe their luck when approached by the Govt about phasing out GLS bulbs.

There was obviously big money in it for them, so the REAL issues with two so very different products were never mentioned.

No CFL maker claims they can replace GLS bulbs in all or even most situations or ever demonstrated the assumed cost benefit to be real.

The alleged CO2 reduction is non existent in reality.

** All true.

Greenies dreamt up the mad idea for political reasons and we know technically savvy they are.

Banning transformer based plug paks was their other triumph.

No proper investigation into either ban was ever done and the public were never asked to comment.

Bad law making, bad policy and bad thinking.

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Phil Allison

Keep the receipts for the LED lamps. When they were very new on the market I bought four BC globe type Osrams as an experiment. One failed within a few weeks but Bunnings replaced it willingly when I showed them the dated proof of purchase. The other three plus the replacement are still going strong after three years. Very satisfactory experiment. No warm up time like a cfl and nice light quality. Mine at least also have a slight afterglow for a few minutes after switching off which is handy for finding the bed after switching off the main bedroom light. As the LED technology matures I think that the cfl might be the vcr of the lighting world. Brief moment of glory but consigned to the dustbin of history when better technology comes along. PH

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Peter Howard

Never been a fan of CFLs, it's a good thing LEDs matured into a much superior alternative.

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Jeßus

And good riddance to them.

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Jeßus

Good advice I bought 4 fom Aldi 3 weeks ago strong but even at $10 a piece not good value, take years to get my $10 back. Aldi would of replaced it but couldn't be bothered, I buy $2, 18 watt fluro's which work well

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I buy $2, 18 watt fluro's which

you know those are halal don't you?

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Dechucka

I wish my CFL's had the same longevity as yours Trevor.

I've replaced probably 6 or 8 so far. Some went bang & smoked, some went phut & went black, some just stopped working. They were mainly Ikea sourced CFLs. I'm now only installing Philips branded units - fingers crossed.

Out of interest does anyone actually like the yellow output of the "warm white" CFL's? I find the "cool white" much more pleasant for both work areas & the lounge etc.

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Brendon

and according to you that will be in 10 years time.. :)

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felix_unger

I've had to replace heaps in just a few years

if they're not an environmental (and health I should have said) hazard why does the govt issue instructions about how they are to be disposed of?

they still emit radiation

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felix_unger

It can't happen soon enough

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felix_unger

it hasn't really become cost effective yet, and I tried some, but the output is too low. ok for desklamps tho.

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felix_unger

It's true that they're still pricey, I personally find the output very good. I have a few 4.5W LEDs in some downlights scattered around the house, a few in desk lamps as well. Oh, and a 1.somethingW globe in the fridge. I have an outdoor globe as well, very bright. All doing a great job.

One thing that drove me crazy about CFLs is a high-pitched tone that I frequently encountered. Haven't noticed that with LEDs so far.

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Jeßus

I can't stand the cool colour temps, especially with CFLs... I always go for the warm ones.

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Jeßus

The Aldi 8 watt ones ($10) I reckon are equal to a 60 watt incandescant out of four one blew after a week so not convinced of reliability

The light is warm the brigther cool bring in to many bugs

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Petzl

Because they are even less of an environmental hazard when disposed of properly.

So does everything.

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