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Simple question, where can I find the longest lasting rechargable AA
batteries? And what would be the best charger to get?

Thanks
Michael (who's sick of his torch going flat while night diving :-)



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"Michael C"

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**  This gives you 6 NiMH cells, 1 hour fast charging and mains of car
charging options:

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4791a8f2019429ea273fc0a87f9c074b/Product/View/S4423P

Very good deal.



........  Phil



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Just be aware the batteries don't become too discharged.  For example
leaving the torch on and forgetting to switch it off, this particular
Eveready
charger won't recharge the cells.  The charge light for the cell under
charge
will simply sit there and flash and NOT recharge the cell.

Opinion is based on personal experience with this particular charger.

The only option to "resurrect" the cells that have been overly discharged is
to charge them in a charger that doesn't "think" the cell is damaged or
over discharged.

If you ensure you recharge the cells before the terminal voltage gets too
low,
the said Eveready charger works quite well.  Unfortunately I don't know of
any
torch that automatically switches off before the batteries are exhausted.

Cheers,
Alan





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I've had this problem before and had to put the batteries in a charger I no
longer use just the get it going. The reason I don't use that charger is it
doesn't switch off and you have to remember to take the batteries out
yourself. But the one I have that switches itself off doesn't charge dead
flat batteries either.



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Much cheaper on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Energizer-Ultra-Fast-Charger_W0QQitemZ320209536235QQihZ011QQcategoryZ50510QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dave.

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"David L. Jerkoff "



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** No it is not.

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4792754a03926160273fc0a87f9c06fa/Product/View/S4423

The $8 difference is not worth the risks associated of dealing with a dodgy
eBay dealer.



.......   Phil



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Ah, they are charging a fortune for the "bonus" batteries then, that's
the one I looked at as it was the product number in your original link
(S4423P):
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4792b8d7061ec0ce2740c0a87f9c074c/Product/View/S4423P
$95

not the $70 S4423 you posted this time.

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Not everyone is out to get you Phil.
Feedback of 50 is pretty good, hardly a dodgy eBay seller, and it's
delivered to your door.

Dave.

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(S4423P):http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4792b8d7061ec0ce2740c0a8 ...
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If you are concerned about the ebay seller - pay with paypal on your
CREDIT CARD. if the item doesnt come, contact the card company and
they will credit you, after checking your claim

I had this happen about 6 months back when buying a development kit
(that never arrived) from a Canadian ebayer, had no problems getting
reimbursed from the card company.  Paying by bank deposit you are
probably stuffed as to compensation for non-delivery etc.

Paypal/ebay offer some form of customer protection in some
circumstances, but have never used it so cant say how good or bad it
is.

Have bought in excess of 200 items through ebay in the past few years,
this is the only problem I have had to date.  The savings over stores
(particularly with electronic components) are often substantial.


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"kreed"
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** That is only ONE of many issues with back yard operators purporting to
sell new goods on eBay.

The BIG  Q concerns the origin and provenance of the goods ............

Are they from reject batches, old and defective stock sold at auction or
maybe goods stolen from shops or warehouses  ??

Are they the genuine brand as advertised  -  or as is sometimes the case a
highly inferior clone or counterfeit of the original ?

Do they meet compulsory electrical safety and EMI regulations ?

What if any warranty is available  ??

The list is endless.



.......   Phil





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"Phil Allison"
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I agree!
I made the mistake of buying some Lithium batteries from an eBay seller.
Good feedback & all. About half the price of the same batteries available
here. Same 'quality' brand just a lot cheaper. Over half of them were no
good. Very boring indeed. Probably a reject batch sold off cheap.
NEVER AGAIN!

Angelo Sartore

Melbourne
AUSTRALIA

ADOPT, ADAPT, INVENT, DESTROY !



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Lithium batteries have a shelf life, especially the rechargeables.
I often laugh at the casual user who gets conned into buying
a spare Lithium Ion battery for their mobile phone only to discover
that by the time they have exhausted the first battery's rechargeability
the second (spare) is half dead.

Cheers,
Alan



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     That's exactly the reason I've avoided Ebay and bought from normal
outlets. If you get something from DSE which is defective, you just take
it back and the drones will replace it on the spot.
     One of my mates bought a used digital camera for me on Ebay. When I
got it, it was just the camera with none of its accessories (e.g. USB
cable), not even its soft case, and it was full of rock concert photos.
Almost like the seller grabbed it while the owner wasn't looking then
sold it.
     OK, maybe I'm cynical ...


Bob







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Sounds pretty right to me Bob.
Lots of stolen stuff ends up on Ebay.
Pointless taking it to the pawn shops as they have to
list all pawned items with the police and then keep
stuff for a couple of weeks before they can sell it.
Too much chance the thief will get nabbed.

Cheers,
Alan
 



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    Ironically I had it for 3 months before it got stolen out of my car.
Yeah, I know: NEVER leave anything of value in a car, even in your own
driveway and even if it's got an alarm.
    I haven't seen the camera on Ebay yet, but I'm still watching. :-(


Cheers
Bob

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Mate, Dick  Smith has in their catalogue 256mb pc 133 sdram for $136
I just purchased the same on ebay for $8
It is out of another computer but is working just fine.
How could you knock that??




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     Great! There are times when common sense has to prevail. :-)

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You can't really.
eBay has its pros and cons, just like shopping at DSE and almost every
other place does.
The usual rules of common sense apply.
Like buying a 2nd hand camera and being surprised when it doesn't come
with the accessories (I know it's not Bob's fault as he didn't buy
it).
Or buying batteries at "too good to be true" prices, and being
surprised when they are crap.
Or buying a new $1000 camera for $100 from someone in asia with a
feedback rating of two and being surprised when it doesn't turn up.
etc etc.

As for DSE, they may be a "reputable" dealer, but they have been known
more than once to sell (probably unknowingly) shonky products and fake
parts etc. They'll happily buy from the lowest cost asian wholesaler
no questions asked, just like many of the Ebay sellers do.

In the case of the original Ebay charger I quoted, the risk is very
low indeed. All the good signs are there - It's an Australian seller,
feedback is high and good, looks like it comes in the original sealed
package, it's not a one-off, seller appears to specialise in selling
all things Energizer, and the price is not so low as to make it sound
like it's "too good to be true". All the hallmarks of a genuine
product being sold on eBay at a good price that undercuts the biggies.

Of course, in some cases it's actually cheaper to buy at DSE than
eBay. Not everything on eBay is chepaer than the big dealers.

Dave.

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You should be made aware that this will initiate a chargeback against
Paypal, not the seller. You risk having your account closed since PP
have to pay the fees associated with the chargeback (which is
something like $US30, plus they get penalised if their chargeback
ratio goes too high).

The credit card company doesn't care that Paypal are a man in the
middle service, as far as they are concerned Paypal is the merchant
that you made the purchase with...

BTW, unless they've improved remarkably in the past couple of years,
the Energiser cells seem to have a very high self-discharge rate. If
you charge them before use it's fine, but if your usage is more
spontaneous (or sparse) then you'll probably be better off with
another brand. I tried the cheapie brand "Ritmo" (purchased from MSY
Computers) several months ago and have been very happy with their
performance.

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     I agree. I've just had one Energizer 2.5AH NiMH cell in a pair go
completely flat a couple of weeks after it was charged and with almost
no use, while its companion stayed almost fully charged.
     I've had this problem with those cells before. They were often
self-discharging at about 25% per *day*. I've been replacing them with
Duracell 2.65AH NiMH from Coles which have been excellent so far.


Bob


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"rowan194"

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 ** Dunno about the  " Energiser "  brand NiMH  AAs  -  but a pair of DSE
brand 2000 mAh cells I bought about 10 months ago for my digital camera are
going just fine.

 Must be some kind parallel there with pedigreed v. moggies -   I guess.




........    Phil



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