Re: Google Groups

The police have guns, and many vets will have a captive bolt pistol for precisely that purpose.

In short whilst not arguing against your position in general, that is in fact a straw man.

I do know I was faced with a rabbit dying of myxomatosis. I had nothing but a stick and a boot, so I rolled it into a deep puddle and drowned it.

Was that the 'humane' thing to do? If I had my air rifle with me I would have done a head shot. That works.

Well yes, they are a peculiar people, when all is said and done, but then so are the Scots. One is just more used to them.

I think a bit more than that. Up to a point, I think your analysis is fair enough, BUT Chinas economy is in deep s*it, and when your economy is in deeps s*it having a war is handy to kill all your young people who want a better life you can't offer them, and justify draconian measures of control.

The point of killing a whole generations males is that it makes room for the next one...

And China wants Taiwan because it doesn't have really good chip fab of its own. Not enough for large scale drone production, and it looks like world war V (We are already in IV, and III happened from 1950-1990) will be heavily microchip based.

It has been noted that Russia, having nothing but oil money to purchase Western politicians and governments and Western tech, is up s*it creek if it's cut off from those.

China is vulnerable militarily and economically. in a similar way to Japan in 1940.

A roll of the dice might be a 'nothing to lose but a population we dont want anyway' move

And in the West there is a massive debt crisis that could be solved if all the people who are owed money were on the other side of a neat little 'moral war'

I didn't see him engaged in anything of the sort. Please indicate at what minute he did so.

That is not the same thing. It is your lack of questioning that bothers me. You jump to conclusions. I prefer to take a moire measured approach and arrive at 'as far as I know' and not claim it as ultimate truth.

I am perfectly sure they reduced it, and reduced the effects of the disease.

Again. boolean thinking is not the way to go here.

I think you are being unfair to ArtStudents™ these folks tended to study things like economics and politics, nothing as tangible and sane as art.

Oh so I'm a liar now. Go and look properly.

I've just checked again, as I said above ~46.00 mins directly after Richard Tice announces his covid vaccine inquiry policy because he's concerned.

Oh I remember it being said at the time. But only Trump haters and the thick would take it as literal. Trump is many things I dislike but a moron isn't one of them.

You do know you argue like socialists don't you. Play the man not the ball. A different opinion means opposition is stupid or making a mistake you've not made.

My fault of course.

My texts on this have been full of I don't knows and I'm not sure. There are only a few things I'm sure about.

I'm certain for example that the drive to push this experimental vaccine into primary school children who are in no danger from covid at all was insane. Especially when we had NO long term safety data.

You appear to be a victim of the lying media, try reading something not MSM vetted.

Bob.

Oh so I'm a liar now. Go and look properly.

I've just checked again, as I said above ~46.00 mins directly after Richard Tice announces his covid vaccine inquiry policy because he's concerned.

Oh I remember it being said at the time. But only Trump haters and the thick would take it as literal. Trump is many things I dislike but a moron isn't one of them.

You do know you argue like socialists don't you. Play the man not the ball. A different opinion means opposition is stupid or making a mistake you've not made.

My fault of course.

My texts on this have been full of I don't knows and I'm not sure. There are only a few things I'm sure about.

I'm certain for example that the drive to push this experimental vaccine into primary school children who are in no danger from covid at all was insane. Especially when we had NO long term safety data.

You appear to be a victim of the lying media, try reading something not MSM vetted.

Bob.

You've gone on about transmission in several posts.

What experimental vaccine?

That's the simple-minded narrative for simple-minded people, who make up most of the population, and as TNP points out, appear to want black-and-white answers in situations where no such response is possible.

If I'd seen this viedo of which you speak, I would have automatically discounted it. If you saw that, believed it, and then <gasp> discovered it wasn't true, then the more fool you.

I was a mathematics student - there were scientists, engineers who were looked down on a bit, medical students who were scary, law students more so and art students and social scientists who were beneath notice.

Really. Never had the flu jab? Doesn't stop you getting it but it seriously lowers the chances of you needing hospitalisation.

Before COVID vaccinations, intensive care units were full - now after vaccinations there are a lot less Covid cases needing ICU.

I really think you are anti-vax! Your comments just scream it.

As you say waste of time discussing it, and it matters not a jot what a.n.other random idiot on usenet says.

Oh yeah? I look forward to your other medical prognostications.

You just can't win an argument with a flat earther!

I think this sums you and others up. You say ALWAYS !! Think about that. EVERYTHING that the media and Leaders (whoever they are) say are lies? Really. Everything?

Plonk!

??? In UK "primary" is under 12. Only those over 12 were advised to get vaccinated.

However only those under 12 at serious risk from the complications of COVID-19 were advised to get vaccinated.

You appear not to know what you are talking about.

The events of the mid-1770s would disagree with you on that. The first thing tyrants set out to do is take the people's guns, as King George III did in 1775:

So you admit you did not hear anything but the agenda main stream media and did no research yourself. You just sucked up the official narrative alone.

And yet, you know all the answers and I'm making all the mistakes.

Well I knew because I wanted a balanced view. I knew I couldn't get that from the obvious agenda pushing media. So I made a small effort to find out.

I wanted to know why the decades old plan on what we would do in the event of a pandemic was thrown out instantly.

It wasn't hard to find prof Gupta who at the time was the UKs leading person in the field but she didn't have the "correct" opinion. From her I found many others, profs from across the globe who formed an organisation, I can't recall the name I'm old.

But you know far more than me and I'm making the mistakes - ok.

Ridiculous argument. She was/is the leader in the field but disagreed with the narrative.

Yes I think that's very clear.

Very much the same as climate loons telling us about tipping points and flooded cities.

So, your life was in danger but you weren't interested to know even the basics of the arguments at the time.

I on the other had was interested and did my research into what was being said, not by loons after fame but experts, the best we had.

That has also been openly questioned. Did you see the empty hospital wards and staff doing well choreographed tic tok dancing because they had nothing to do? You didn't? You didn't do much looking then.

Yes, I also saw brave staff working on the covid wards.

According to pants down, the well known established, world champion catastrophiser.

Did you not see his prediction of the deaths in Sweden due to the policies they were following? Did you later see that they did far better than virtually every other country? Pants down was light years out AGAIN! I was shocked as you can imagine.

Okay. I'm genuinely sad to hear you're in such a state, I hope things improve.

I'm sorry, I didn't say he lied, that statement may well be true. Important for you I can see but not for the argument.

Yesterday you told me my cousin would probably have died without the jabs. That's utterly ridiculous, the chances of her dying were very slight indeed. No sense of true proportion there at all.

You blast me who was interested and did research and you admit you did none you just soaked up the nonsense on the BBC and pants down's prophecy of doom.

You didn't appear to even know that Omicron was the saviour or why. I'll tell you why. Omicron affected the upper airways and not the lungs. This meant that it was more transmissible through coughing but was not so dangerous because it did not attack the lungs.

You should have known THAT!

Omicron also gave anti-bodies against delta which is why Delta was seen off quickly. Oddly, Delta anti-bodies did not work against Omicron.

Omicron was the best thing that could have happened, pity you didn't know about it. I don't recall main stream media explaining that !

To repeat what I've said for clarity.

I've seen evidence, very real evidence of vaccine harms up close.

I know the vaccine did not stop you catching covid as it was claimed.

I know that Omicron changed the whole game in very short order, you would know that if you had done the most basic research outside of lying MSM which was desperate to shut down anything even slightly outside the narrative.

I've not seen any evidence that the vaccines helped with recovery. That does not mean they didn't.

I know masks didn't work it was a lie.

I know PCR tests were set way too sensitive to give meaningful data.

I know the elderly were forced into care homes and given end of life treatment, instead of treating their illness.

So what, how is that relevant? I've not said people didn't die of covid or things that happened as a result of covid.

There is no point in me continuing. It's clear from your remarks and your admission that you were not interested to do the most basic research and that your view of reality on this subject is entirely propaganda led and then some.

I'm done you'll be glad to know. Bob.

It most certainly is not.

LOL!