Raspberry Pi Imager

Jan 29, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 22 Replies

I don't normally use the imager, I download the OS direct and burn it using Win32 Disk Imager but I thought I should try out Rpi Imager.



I like to write notes on everything I do so I'll know next time and so I tried to make notes on using Rpi Imager. Dear me.



First off I found that the OS choice menu kept changing. If you selected it first then you could select any RPi OS but if you select pi3 first then OS options disappear. I don't meant OS for pi 4 or pi



5 I'd understand that but Bookworm 32 bit lite is removed from the menu. Why??? Grrr.

So I saw an option to install an OS image you have stored. I tried that but it doesn't allow you to look anywhere but the C drive for it, certainly not an unmapped NAS.



Is this me? Or is this tool just a bit pants?



Bob.


Dunno m8. Never used it. Always burn the image onto the boot device. I reckoned it was for dumb (blonde) windows users...

AFAIK there is no and will not be a 64b BOOKWORM. If I'm wrong let me know.

Well it used to be but with the increasing paranoia about security if you want a headless Pi with a working ssh login it's really quite difficult 'by hand' whereas Pi Imager makes it fairly straightforward.

Am 29.01.24 um 13:17 schrieb JJenssen:

Silly me _> segmentation fault, brain dumped... It is valid for 32b

When OS options disappear after selecting a certain model of Pi then obviously the OS is not available for this version of Pi. There may be some images available in beta stadium, but this should not be offered on the official Pi imager. The imager also gives you the opportunity so set a password prior to installing since standard passwords are no longer allowed on the latest versions of RPi OS

How is this supposed to work? The OS you run the installer on simply does not see the NAS if you do not map it first, so why not map it? It definitely works on other drives as C since I keep my downloads on E and use RPi imager from there and sometimes I have an image on my mapped NAS, which is I.

-jw-

If you're starting from scratch I take your point, the lack of default username/password has made it much harder. But that's only once really. I imagine that everyone now has a userconf.txt file ready to drop in alongside an empty ssh file.

Bob.

And that's the problem - "fairly" straightforward. It assumes you have a compatible computer that can be loaded with the imager software.

If there was an easily accessible page with instructions to do it without the imager all would be OK - but you have to look for it.

Instructions should be on (or accessible from) the "Operating System Images" page - if you're here you have already decided not to use the imager - for creating wireless connection, ssh setup, initial user, initial password.

Why is/are the instructions in a blog post* rather than on a page accessible from the Image page.

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I'm not too sure about that. Look at this page..

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option on the page... Raspberry Pi OS lite Bookworm and on the left along side that it says "Compatible with: All Pi Models".

Agreed but we're not talking beta. "Compatible with: All Pi Models" yet blocked by Imager.

I don't deny it has some advantages but it has serious limitations too.

No idea but I have many bits of software that have no problem accessing files with a UNC path, Serif photo plus for example and Tag&rename for another off the top of my head.

Not entirely true I don't think, else Serif etc. wouldn't work.

There are reasons not to map drives, especially on drives not always switched on.

Don't dispute it.

Bob.

OK, then you may have discovered a bug in this version of the imager, I haven't used it in a while and have not come across this version.

-jw-

Last time I tried it, I set some of the advanced options such as ssh, username and WiFi SSID, but it didn't seem to work. SO I went back to dd and copying config files on to the FAT partition.

---druck

So your NAS was in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard', and Raspberry Pi Imager didn't find it? - Tsk!

---druck

You forgot both the moat with crocodiles and the boiling oil. :-)

Well, I'm used to PC software that is happy to use a UNC path and I was surprised and disappointed when Imager doesn't seem to.

Bob.

What does it do that a simple “dd” command doesn’t?

In truth I don't know enough to fully answer that question as I've little idea what 'dd' is or does.

I would guess it is a Linux command and if so my only answer might be

- burn an image to SD card on a PC.

I was looking at Pi Imager because I should have a good reason for rejecting the default method and because I was looking for the best way in for a newbie, even newer than me. :-)

Bob.

I *think* from reading noob guides, that it does more than dump the OS on the card, it also allows a GUI interface to set up username/password, whether you want a gui desktop or a server, whether sshd is to be allowed and possibly login credentials for wifi. etc etc.

In short all the things you do manually anyway when booting a pi first time. And using raspi-config

It doesn't scare the s*it out of me :-)

I've had pretty good results, when I was writting images every week for an opi5, the rpi5 doesn't seem to need that level of attention.

Yes, that's why I didn't want to reject it just because it was unfamiliar.

However, you do need to be careful which pi you tell it you're building an SD card for. If you say pi3 a lot of OS options get removed from the menu. To get them back lie and say it's a pi4 then they come back. Madness.

Bob.

You can set up username/password, enable ssh and Wifi credentials. Very useful and time-saving, especially for headless installs. (RPi OS lite)

-jw-

Microsoft didn't make the use of UNC paths seamless across all APIs.

---druck

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