Re: Google Groups

mmmmm a nuanced approach to truth, not!

Correct. They are both carefully crafted to let you know what 'other intelligent people like you are thinking'

So that by thinking exactly the same, you can pass as 'intelligent'.

By "worked really well," you meant to say that crime has skyrocketed, right? You are aware that criminals don't obey laws, right?

Instead, they get stabbed and cut with knives. What's next, knife bans? Oh, wait...they're already doing that:

Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns.

The US Supremem Court should not have been involved in the first place. In Europe, abortion is not so contentious an issue precisely because it is legislated about by elected politicians. Beware of judicial overreach.

Well I agree.

The prime concern of anyone who is elected, is to get re-elected. So DAs and judges are likely to fall over themselves to appear to be "tough on crime". So they want high conviction rates. So in the pre-trial conference, the defendant might be offered that they'll get 3 years if they cop a plea, but 40 years if they defend the case and are convicted. You ever hear of a US judge disqualifying himself because of such a clear conflict of interest? Seems to me that in the US, you don't get justice, you get law - and plenty of it. Plea bargaining is pernicious under such circumstances; it also means that the evidence is never tested in court.

Central government appoints ours. And don't imagine that this means that our judges are political. They tend to be independently minded. I'm not sure if there is a simple mechansim to remove them, either.

We also don't allow it in the print media. On TV, there are 5 minute slots called "Party Political Broadcasts", with a strictly limited number allowed . Not sure whether or how the content is regulated.

Certainly is. I just compare the annual number of murders by firearms in the UK (35 in 2021) with that of the US (7,500 to 10,000 or so).

All the ones appointed by Bliar are.

As hard left and bolshy as can be.

In the UK disputes tend to end in grievous bodily harm, at worst. There are a lot of stabbings on the streets but no one gets shot. Guns are hard to come by and carry extreme penalties if convicted with one.

The problem is not that NRA dudes are rampant murderers, but that guns are so available it becomes the weapon of *choice*. For any nutcase. Here it tends to be machetes these days...or a stolen vehicle

Friend Scott overlooks that with a knife, there is some chance of running away from the situation. Rather less so if Chummy can plug you with his handgun from a distance.

There is also a lot less chance of stabbing the wrong person from a distance, or even at all.

Did you hear this from some random loony on Facebook?

In all the good democracies, you have a realistic choice of more than two parties to vote for, and the ones running for election are not the ones running the election.

Says a hard right nutcase.

Yeah, imagine if that Las Vegas shooter up on the 32nd floor didn’t have guns to shoot people in the street with, he would have just thrown knives. Because knives thrown with bare hands cause just as much carnage as an AR15, don’t they.

I mean that mass shootings have become something of a rarity in Australia now. Whereas they are a weekly occurrence in the USA.

Hardly, at least not in the civilized parts of the country. Somewhere like Chicago or DC (to pick a couple)? They're getting what they voted for, good and hard, and them doing more of the same isn't going to improve their lot.

If a bad guy with a knife manages to close to within about 21', you're pretty much f***ed. He can slice or stab you faster than you can either (1) back off and run away or (2) get your gun ready.

Interesting that you tend to pick on those places, rather than, say, Massachusetts and Hawaii, which have gun-control laws that work.

I don't have a Facebook account.

My opinion was formed by own experiences and observations.

Why is someone who holds a different view from you a loony? Are you so secure in your rectitude that insulting opponents is your right?

Bob.