Oil prices climb to $101.11 a barrel...

Feb 27, 2008 97 Replies

It is clear that food not grown here is going to have to be replaced-- grown elsewhere. And, those new farmers will have to clear land & destroy habitat to do that. (I suppose that should've been 5c.: destruction of forest / grasslands / habitat.)

Since ours is among the most productive farmland in the world, chances are the new land will be less fertile. And so it'll take more land area and more work and tractor fuel, on average, to yield the same crop.

And the replacement's agricultural practices aren't likely to be as advanced and efficient as ours in general.

What the total affect of those factors is, I haven't calculated; I was just passing on that link (to the fellows who have, who estimate ethanol's net effect is to double CO2 emissions).

Best wishes, James Arthur

The Japaneese are working on the problem. Apparently, they can get about 20 milliliters of gas from a ton of seeweed.

Here's a link:

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As for smaller cars, we could just ride motorcycles that get 100 MPG. But I was thinking the other day, it would be nice if the busses ran every 10 minutes along all the major roads. Probably reduce the traffic 80 percent, and we can always use a car if there's a lot to carry, or in a hurry, or afraid of motorcycles.

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Opps, that should have been Kiloliters.

-Bill

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Too paranoid. Put the aluminum foil hat back on.

The EU simply never allowed itself from being distracted from running its economies and industries based on sound fiscal principles.

Wrong. OPEC will still take dollars, or a number of other currencies. You just get quoted a different price, depending on what the demand for your particular currency is.

Its like the marketplace in Cuba. There's the 'domestic' peso and the convertible peso. The exchange rate on the convertible is much better (even than official exchange rates) and, if you are fortunate enough to have US dollars, magically, the empty shop shelves will be filled and you become a favored customer.

The dollar is becoming to the rest of the world what the Cuban peso is to the US dollar.

Which mountain and what fire is that?

Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Time's fun when you're having flies. -- Kermit the Frog

Or just wait a while and $100M USD won't be that big a deal any more.

Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Stupidity kills. But not nearly often enough.

The perfect time to repay.

Cheers, James Arthur

So, do you ride a motorcycle? Or use buses or trains? How often?

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I think that Dante said that, and he copied it from Epictitus.

Now if you had only read and understood that book.

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Just to help us understand, give us some Mencken quotes.

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Look up a dictionary for a term "Standard" Is the Dollar right now the standard Currency of the world Dummy ? Go to Ebay, check out HongKong items, they require EURO or Austrilian Dollar. Don't make a s*it out of yourself Stupid.

Don't warn him, let him get hurt and let him find the truth the hard way. I already checked with the motorcyclists. They said they're getting 28-30MPG on highway. There is no such thing 100MPG motorcycle.

America loves to jump to conclusion on everything from Economy to WDM's. This time you're going to get hurt badly.

What a blazing idiot. You are so obvious from the content of your forgeries. Who has to look at the headers any more. Go away forever.

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You sure as heck don't know the real Jim Thompson do you

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That is part of the issue with the mortgage crisis, and the reason for the bank bail outs. They have been in the news a little. Almost 100 Billion dollars so far.

In message , Don Klipstein writes

Only if you don't slash and burn pristine rain forest to grow your new fuel and food which is what is happening in many places at present. You lose on both sides of the equation, burning the forest and no longer having it there to do photosynthesis. By comparison the crops don't fix as much CO2 and the poor soil quickly degrades without the forest canopy.

The economics of biofuel are questionable at best - some schemes actually use more energy from fossil fuel to cultivate and process the crop it than is yielded by the final product. You might as well not bother.

When we can turn straw and wood waste into alcohol for fuel then we will have something useful, but turning grain into fuel is certifiable.

Regards.

Martin Brown

"MooseFET" wrote in news:fq89bv$lu7$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

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bz please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an infinite set. bz+nanae@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu

"MooseFET" wrote in news:fq89bv$lu7$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

They must be driving monster hogs.

Wrong. 100 MPG is very doable now.

The BMW Isetta (a small 4 wheeled car that looks kind of like a pregnant roller skate, the whole front opens, many think it is a three wheeler because the back wheels are very close together.) that I drove in college in the 1960's got about 50 mpg. The GAS tank "held" 1 gallon [with a 1 gallon reserve available via a valve as there was no gas gauge]. Top speed was about 55 mph, downhill with a tail wind.

The XK120 Jag that I had only got about 8 mpg. It would go a bit faster than the Isetta. :)

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You haven't finish your school yet, so don't preach, wait until you gained experience first. Motor cycles can only contain 4 gallons of fuel. Do a research with the Motorcycle NewsGroup and come back dummy.

The popular price per barrel quoted in the news is the spot market price, and ignores the oil refined within vertically-integrated companies and oil delivered under long-term, fixed-price contracts.

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Actually, I walk most everywhere I have to go. I used to ride a bicycle to work about a mile away and I rode busses to school, but it took over an hour to get there. And I rode busses for about 3 months when my van broke down while I was shopping for a new truck. Also rode a motorcycle for a couple years when I was younger and car insurance was expensive. Nowadays, I drive about 5000 miles a year on two oil changes.

-Bill

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