Hi All!
Fri Jan 30 2004 12:17, Sergej S. Avdushin wrote to All:
SSA> õ XC9500XL ÐÒÉ 3.3÷ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÉ ×ÈÏÄÙ É ×ÙÈÏÄÙ 5÷ ÔÏÌÅÒÁÎÔÎÙ.
SSA> íÏÇÕ ÌÉ ÚÁÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄÙ ËÁË "ÏÔËÒÙÔÙÊ ËÏÌÌÅËÔÏÒ" É SSA> ÐÏÄÁ×ÁÔØ ÎÁ ÎÉÈ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÒÅÚÉÓÔÏÒÙ 5÷?
SSA> ðÏÓÌÅ ÞÔÅÎÉÑ ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔÁ - ×ÒÏÄÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ÎÏ ËÁËÉÅ-ÔÏ ÏÐÁÓÅÎÉÑ SSA> ÏÓÔÁÌÉÓØ.
õ XC95xx ÎÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ ÔÉÐ ×ÙÈÏÄÁ. ôÏÌØËÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔØ ÎÁÒÁÓÔÁÎÉÑ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÇÏ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ. ïÔËÒÙÔÙÊ ËÏÌÌÅËÔÏÒ ÔÁÍ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÎÅÌØÚÑ, ÜÔÏ ÄÏÓÔÕÐÎÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ × FPGA - Spartan, Virtex etc. HÏ ÐÒÉÔÑÎÕÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÒÅÚÉÓÔÏÒ Ë 5 ×ÏÌØÔÁÍ ÍÏÖÎÏ.30 ñÎ× 04 23:07, ÷Ù ÉÚ×ÏÌÉÌÉ ÐÏÓÌÁÔØ ÓÀÄÁ, × ÞÁÓÔÎÏÓÔÉ, ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:
IT> õ XC95xx ÎÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ ÔÉÐ ×ÙÈÏÄÁ. ôÏÌØËÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔØ ÎÁÒÁÓÔÁÎÉÑ IT> ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÇÏ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ. ïÔËÒÙÔÙÊ ËÏÌÌÅËÔÏÒ ÔÁÍ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÎÅÌØÚÑ, ÜÔÏ ÄÏÓÔÕÐÎÏ IT> ÔÏÌØËÏ × FPGA - Spartan, Virtex etc. HÏ ÐÒÉÔÑÎÕÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÒÅÚÉÓÔÏÒ IT> Ë 5 ×ÏÌØÔÁÍ ÍÏÖÎÏ. Pardon, Ñ ÐÒÏ CPLD ÍÁÌÏ ÞÔÏ ÚÎÁÀ, ÎÏ, ÍÏÖÅÔ, × £Í ÍÏÖÎÏ ÎÁ ÈÏÄÕ ÐÅÒÅËÌÀÞÁÔØ ÎÁÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÅ ×Ù×ÏÄÁ? ôÏÇÄÁ ïë ÉÚÏÂÒÁÚÉÔØ ÎÅÓÌÏÖÎÏ: "0" - ×Ù×ÏÄ ÓËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÉÒÏ×ÁÎ ËÁË ×ÙÈÏÄ, ÎÁ ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ ÐÏÄÁÎ ÎÉÚËÉÊ ÕÒÏ×ÅÎØ, "1" - ÓËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ×Ù×ÏÄ ËÁË ×ÈÏÄ. ÷ ÎÁÛÅÊ ËÏÎÔÏÒÅ ÔÁË É ÄÅÌÁÅÍ, ÐÒÁ×ÄÁ, ÎÁ FPGA.
ðÒÉÍÉÔÅ Õ×ÅÒÅÎÉÑ × ÓÏ×ÅÒÛÅÎÎÅÊÛÅÍ Ë ÷ÁÍ ÐÏÞÔÅÎÉÉ. á.ð.çÕÓØËÏ×.Sat Jan 31 2004 23:41, Andrew Gooskov wrote to Ilia Tarasov:
AG> Pardon, Ñ ÐÒÏ CPLD ÍÁÌÏ ÞÔÏ ÚÎÁÀ, ÎÏ, ÍÏÖÅÔ, × £Í ÍÏÖÎÏ ÎÁ ÈÏÄÕ AG> ÐÅÒÅËÌÀÞÁÔØ ÎÁÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÅ ×Ù×ÏÄÁ? ôÏÇÄÁ ïë ÉÚÏÂÒÁÚÉÔØ ÎÅÓÌÏÖÎÏ: "0" - ×Ù×ÏÄ AG> ÓËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÉÒÏ×ÁÎ ËÁË ×ÙÈÏÄ, ÎÁ ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ ÐÏÄÁÎ ÎÉÚËÉÊ ÕÒÏ×ÅÎØ, "1" - AG> ÓËÏÎÆÉÇÕÒÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ×Ù×ÏÄ ËÁË ×ÈÏÄ. ÷ ÎÁÛÅÊ ËÏÎÔÏÒÅ ÔÁË É ÄÅÌÁÅÍ, ÐÒÁ×ÄÁ, ÎÁ AG> FPGA.
íÏÖÎÏ ÄÅÌÁÔØ Ä×ÕÎÁÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÎÙÅ ×Ù×ÏÄÙ, ÅÓÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÙÅ ÂÕÆÅÒÙ Ó ÔÒÅÍÑ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÑÍÉ. ðÒÏÓÔÏ × FPGA ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔÅÊ ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÑ ×Ù×ÏÄÁÍÉ ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ÂÏÌØÛÅ, ÐÏÓËÏÌØËÕ ÔÁÍ ÅÓÔØ ÄÅÌÅÎÉÅ ÎÁ CLB (×ÎÕÔÒÅÎÎÑÑ ÍÁÔÒÉÃÁ) É IOB (ÏÔÄÅÌØÎÙÅ ÂÌÏËÉ ××ÏÄÁ-×Ù×ÏÄÁ). ÷ CPLD ÎÅÍÎÏÇÏ ÎÅ ÔÁË, ×Ù×ÏÄÙ ËÏÒÐÕÓÁ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÅÎÙ ÎÅÐÏÓÒÅÄÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ Ë ÌÏÇÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÑÞÅÊËÁÍ. HÏ × ÌÀÂÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ, ÐÒÉÔÑÎÕÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄ ÒÅÚÉÓÔÏÒÏÍ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ÄÏÐÕÓÔÉÍÏ, Õ 9500XL ÅÝÅ É ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÊ ÔÏË 24 Íá...Hi Ilia!
ðÏÞÅÍÕ ÖÅ ÎÅÌØÚÑ: ÂÅÒÅÍ ÂÕÆÅÒ Ó ÔÒÅÍÑ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÑÍÉ, ÎÁ ÅÇÏ ×ÈÏÄ ÐÏÄÁÅÍ "0", Á ÓÉÇÎÁÌ ÐÏÄÁÅÍ ÎÁ ×ÈÏÄ ÒÁÚÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ ×ÙÈÏÄÁ. ðÏ ÍÏÅÍÕ, ÜÔÏ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÎÙÊ ÓÐÏÓÏÂ. óÅÒÇÅÊ.Hi Ilia!
ôÙ ÎÅ ÐÅÒÅÐÕÔÁÌ 9500 É 9500XL? 9500 ÉÍÅÅÔ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÅ 5÷, É ÐÒÉ ÜÔÏÍ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÉ Õ ÎÅÅ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÊ ÔÏË 24 Íá. 9500XL ÉÍÅÅÔ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÅ 3.3÷, É ÐÒÉ ÜÔÏÍ Õ ÎÅÅ ÇÁÒÁÎÔÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÅ ÎÁÐÒÑÖÅÎÉÅ "0" ÎÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ 0.4÷ ÐÒÉ ÔÏËÅ 8 Íá. HÉËÁËÉÈ ÕÐÏÍÉÎÁÎÉÊ, ÞÔÏ ÏÎÁ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ Ó ÂÏÌØÛÉÍ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÙÍ ÔÏËÏÍ ÍÎÅ ÎÅ ÐÏÐÁÄÁÌÉÓØ. óÅÒÇÅÊ.Hi Ilia !
30 ñÎ× 04 Ilia Tarasov ÐÉÓÁÌ Ë Sergej S. Avdushin:SSA>> õ XC9500XL ÐÒÉ 3.3÷ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÉ ×ÈÏÄÙ É ×ÙÈÏÄÙ 5÷ ÔÏÌÅÒÁÎÔÎÙ. IT>
SSA>> íÏÇÕ ÌÉ ÚÁÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄÙ ËÁË "ÏÔËÒÙÔÙÊ ËÏÌÌÅËÔÏÒ" É SSA>> ÐÏÄÁ×ÁÔØ ÎÁ ÎÉÈ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÒÅÚÉÓÔÏÒÙ 5÷? IT>
SSA>> ðÏÓÌÅ ÞÔÅÎÉÑ ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔÁ - ×ÒÏÄÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ÎÏ ËÁËÉÅ-ÔÏ ÏÐÁÓÅÎÉÑ SSA>> ÏÓÔÁÌÉÓØ. IT>
IT> õ XC95xx ÎÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ ÔÉÐ ×ÙÈÏÄÁ. ôÏÌØËÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔØ ÎÁÒÁÓÔÁÎÉÑ IT> ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÇÏ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ. ïÔËÒÙÔÙÊ ËÏÌÌÅËÔÏÒ ÔÁÍ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÎÅÌØÚÑ, ÜÔÏ ÄÏÓÔÕÐÎÏ IT> ÔÏÌØËÏ × FPGA - Spartan, Virtex etc.
íÏÖÎÏ. éÓÐÏÌØÚÕÑ ÔpÅÔØÅ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÅ. ÷ÈÏÄ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÇÏ ÂÕÆÅpÁ ÎÁ 0, Á ÎÁ ×ÈÏÄ ÕÐpÁ×ÌÅÎÉÑ ÂÕÆÅpÁ ÓÉÇÎÁÌ. ðÏÌÕÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÓÁÍÙÊ ÞÔÏ ÎÉ ÎÁ ÅÓÔØ ÏÔËpÙÔÙÊ ËÏÌÌÅËÔÏp.IT> HÏ ÐÒÉÔÑÎÕÔØ ×ÙÈÏÄ ÞÅÒÅÚ ÒÅÚÉÓÔÏÒ IT> Ë 5 ×ÏÌØÔÁÍ ÍÏÖÎÏ.
ðÏËÁ!Mon Feb 02 2004 09:48, Sergej S. Avdushin wrote to All:
SSA> ðÏÞÅÍÕ ÖÅ ÎÅÌØÚÑ: ÂÅÒÅÍ ÂÕÆÅÒ Ó ÔÒÅÍÑ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÑÍÉ, ÎÁ ÅÇÏ ×ÈÏÄ ÐÏÄÁÅÍ SSA> "0", SSA> Á ÓÉÇÎÁÌ ÐÏÄÁÅÍ ÎÁ ×ÈÏÄ ÒÁÚÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ ×ÙÈÏÄÁ. ðÏ ÍÏÅÍÕ, ÜÔÏ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÎÙÊ SSA> ÓÐÏÓÏÂ.
ðÒÏÓÔÏ × FPGA ÉÍÅÀÔÓÑ ÏÞÅÎØ ÛÉÒÏËÉÅ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔÉ ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÑ ×ÙÈÏÄÏÍ - ÏËÏÌÏ Ä×ÕÈ ÄÅÓÑÔËÏ× ÜÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉÈ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÏ×, × ÔÏÍ ÞÉÓÌÅ Ó "ÞÅÓÔÎÙÍ" ïë. ÷ CPLD ×ÙÈÏÄ - ÜÔÏ ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ëíïð (ËÁË ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ - Ó ÔÒÅÍÑ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÑÍÉ).Mon Feb 02 2004 09:53, Sergej S. Avdushin wrote to All:
SSA> ôÙ ÎÅ ÐÅÒÅÐÕÔÁÌ 9500 É 9500XL?
SSA> 9500 ÉÍÅÅÔ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÅ 5÷, É ÐÒÉ ÜÔÏÍ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÉ Õ ÎÅÅ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÊ ÔÏË 24 Íá.
SSA> 9500XL ÉÍÅÅÔ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÅ 3.3÷, É ÐÒÉ ÜÔÏÍ Õ ÎÅÅ ÇÁÒÁÎÔÉÒÕÅÔÓÑ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÅ SSA> ÎÁÐÒÑÖÅÎÉÅ "0" ÎÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ 0.4÷ ÐÒÉ ÔÏËÅ 8 Íá. HÉËÁËÉÈ ÕÐÏÍÉÎÁÎÉÊ, SSA> ÞÔÏ ÏÎÁ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ Ó ÂÏÌØÛÉÍ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÙÍ ÔÏËÏÍ ÍÎÅ ÎÅ SSA> ÐÏÐÁÄÁÌÉÓØ.
þÅÓÔÎÏ ÇÏ×ÏÒÑ, ÍÏÇ É ÐÅÒÅÐÕÔÁÔØ. äÁÎÎÙÅ ÐÒÉ×ÏÄÉÌ ÐÏ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÉÚ ÂÏÌØÛÏÊ Selection Matrix. ÷ÒÏÄÅ ÂÙ ÔÁÍ ÂÙÌÏ 24 Íá É ÄÌÑ ÎÉÚËÏ×ÏÌØÔÎÙÈ CPLD, ÈÏÔÑ É ÔÁÍ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ÍÏÇÌÉ ÏÛÉÂÉÔØÓÑ. ÷ ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔÅ ÅÓÔØ AC Load circuit - 360 ïÍ ÎÁ ÚÅÍÌÀ É 320 ÎÁ +3,3, ÍÏÖÎÏ ÐÏÓÞÉÔÁÔØ...Hi Ilia!
áÇÁ, ÎÁÛÅÌ. óÈÅÍÁ ÜË×É×ÁÌÅÎÔÎÁ ÉÓÔÏÞÎÉËÕ ÎÁÐÒÑÖÅÎÉÑ 3.3*360/(320+360) = 1.747÷ Ó ×ÙÈÏÄÎÙÍ ÓÏÐÒÏÔÉ×ÌÅÎÉÅÍ (320*360)/(320+360)= 169,4 ïÍ äÁÅÍ ÎÁ ×ÙÈÏÄ ÌÏÇÉÞÅÓËÉÊ "0" = 0.4÷, ÐÏÌÕÞÁÅÍ ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÊ ÔÏË (1.747÷-0.4÷)/169,4 ïÍ= 0,00795A = 7.95mA . þÕÄÁ ÎÅ ÐÒÏÉÚÏÛÌÏ. ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, óÅÒÇÅÊ á×ÄÀÛÉÎ.Have something to add? Share your thoughts — no account required.
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