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Hello, Vladislav! You wrote in conference fido7.RU.EMBEDDED to All on Wed, 12 Nov 2003

15:28:57 +0300:

VV> ÷ÏÔ ÐÒÉÓÐÉÞÅÌÏ ÉÚÍÅÎÉÔØ ÒÁÂÏÞÅÅ ÕÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×Ï Ó 5÷ ÆÌÜÛËÁÍÉ ÎÁ 3,3÷ VV> ÆÌÜÛËÉ. ëÁË ÓÞÉÔÁÅÔÅ? åÓÌÉ ÐÏ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÀ Ó 5÷ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ 2 ÄÉÏÄÁ ( ÐÏÌÕÞÉÍ VV> ÇÄÅ ÔÏ 3,6÷), Á VV> ÐÏ ×ÓÅÍ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁÍ ÚÁÐÁÑÔØ ÓÔÁÂÉÌÉÔÒÏÎÞÉËÉ ÎÁ 3,3÷ É ÒÅÚÀÞËÉ ÐÏ 1-2 ËïÍ. VV> ðÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒ AT89C52. ÷ÏÔ ÐÒÏÊÄÅÔ ÔÁËÁÑ ËÏÒÒÅËÃÉÑ ÉÌÉ ÞÔÏ ÔÏ ÐÏÐÒÏÝÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ VV> ÐÒÉÄÕÍÁÔØ?

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• From: "Peter Kostenko" snipped-for-privacy@p2.f.n5015.z2.fidonet.org>
• Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:49:09 +0300
• To: Dmitry Klimov
• Subj: Re: Flash 8Mbit ==========================================================================

Hello, Dmitry! You wrote to Alex Shestakov on Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:47:33 +0400:

DK> óÏÇÌÁÓÅÎ, ÐÏÄÔÑÇÉ×ÁÀÝÉÊ pÅÚÉÓÔÏp É ×ÙÈÏÄÎÏÊ ÂÕÆÅp × 3-ÅÍ ÓÏÓÔÏÑÎÉÉ DK> ÂÕÄÕÔ, ÎÏ ×ÏÔ ÍÅÎÑ ÔÁË ÓÍÕÔÉÌÁ ÓÔÁÔÅÊËÁ Interfacing DataFlash Ó ÁÔÍÅÌÁ DK> É ÔÁÍ pÉÓÕÀÔÓÑ × ÓÌÕÞÁÅ TTL ÌÏÇÉËÉ ÔÁËÉÅ ÄÉÁÇpÁÍËÉ, ÞÔÏ ×pÏÄÅ ËÁË ×ÓÅ DK> ÎÁÐpÑÍÕÀ. ðÏÞÉÔÁ× ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔ, Ñ ÐÏÎÑÌ ÞÔÏ ÜÔÏ ÎÅ ÔÁË, ÎÕ Á ÐÏËÏÐÁ×ÛÉÓØ × DK> ÓÔÁÔÅÊËÅ ÎÁÛÅÌ É ×ÏÔ ÜÔÏ

DK> The output pins, however, will only operate within the specification of DK> the DataFlash and the limits of the Vccdf power supply.

ÅÓÌÉ ÄÏ ËÏÎÃÁ ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÔØ ÜÔÏÔ ÁÂÚÁÃ: The RDY/BUSY pin can be

connected to 5-volt supply via a 1 k external pull-up resistor.

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DK> ô.Å. ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÞÅÇÏ-ÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ.

ÄÏÞÉÔÁÔØ ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔ ÄÏ ËÏÎÃÁ - Õ ËÁÖÄÏÇÏ ÚÁÄÁÞÁ Ó×ÏÑ, Á ÐÒÁËÔÉÞÅÓËÉ ×ÓÅ ÔÉÐÏ×ÙÅ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ × ÜÔÏÊ AN ÅÓÔØ. Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÏÎ ÎÁÚÙ×ÁÅÔÓÑ DOC3297.pdf

DK>>> ñ ÖÅ ÇÏ×ÏpÉÌ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ÐpÏ ×ÈÏÄÙ, ËÓÔÁÔÉ Á ÎÕÖÎÏ ÏÎÏ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ 3.3 ->

DK>>> 5? ñ ÄÏ ÓÉÈ ÐÏp ÓÞÉÔÁÌ, ÞÔÏ ÎÅÔ. íÏÖÅÔ Ñ ÏÛÉÂÁÀÓØ?

ÕÒÏ×ÅÎØ ÓÒÁÂÁÔÙ×ÁÎÉÑ ÅÄÉÎÉÃÙ ÎÁ ×ÈÏÄÅ

AS>> õ AVRÁ ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ Ñ ÓÏÂÉÒÁÀÓØ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÍÉÎÉÍÁÌØÎÏÅ ×ÈÏÄÎÏÅ ÎÁÐÒÑÖÅÎÉÅ AS>> ×ÙÓÏËÏÇÏ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ ÓÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÅÔ 0.6 Vcc ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ ÂÅÚ ÓÏÇÌÁÓÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÎÅ AS>> ÏÂÏÊÔÉÓØ. DK> ñ ÜÔÕ ÆÌÅÛËÕ ÈÏÞÕ Ë PIC18F452 ÐpÉËpÕÞÉ×ÁÔØ, Õ ÎÅÇÏ DK> 0.25Vcc - Vcc Input High TTL Level DK> Vss - 0.15Vcc Input Low TTL Level DK> HÏ ËÁËÉÅ ×ÁpÉÁÎÔÙ ÅÓÔØ ËpÏÍÅ ÓÔÁÂÉÌÉÔpÏÎÁ. ÷ÏÔ × ÓÔÁÔÅÊËÅ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÀÔ DK> ÐpÅÏÂpÁÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ ÕpÏ×ÎÅÊ MAX. ÷ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ × ÄÁÎÎÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÜÔÏ ÌÉÛÎÅÅ?

ÒÅÚÀÍÅ(ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍ) ÎÁ ÜÔÕ ÔÅÍÕ:

1. ÅÓÌÉ ÎÁ SPI Õ ×ÁÓ ÏÄÎÏ ÕÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×Ï(ÆÌÅÛËÁ) É ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒ (ÉÌÉ ÞÔÏ Ó ÆÌÅÛ ÏÂÍÅÎÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ) ttl, ÔÏ ÎÉËÁËÉÈ ÓÏÇÌÁÓÏ×ÁÎÉÊ × ÓÌÕÞÁÅ Ó ÔÏÌÅÒÁÎÔÎÏÊ ÆÌÅÛËÏÊ ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÎÅÔ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÏÓÔÉ. ÔÒÉ ÄÉÏÄÁ × ÐÉÔÁÎÉÅ ÆÌÅÛËÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÚÁÍÙËÁÔØ ÐÅÒÅÍÙÞËÏÊ, ÅÓÌÉ ÄÏÓÔÁÌÉ ÐÑÔÉ×ÏÌØÔÏ×ÙÊ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ. ËÏÇÏ ÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ ÓÏ ÓÔÁÂÉÌÉÔÒÏÎÏÍ (ÏÎ É ÎÅ ÎÕÖÅÎ) - ÓÔÁ×ÔÅ "ÐÏÄÔÑÖËÕ" ÎÁ ÚÅÍÌÀ. Ë ÕÒÏ×ÎÀ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÑ 0V, Ñ ÎÁÄÅÀÓØ, ×ÓÅ ÍÉËÒÏÓÈÅÍÙ "ÔÏÌÅÒÁÎÔÎÙ".
2. ÅÓÌÉ ÎÁ spi ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÕÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×, ÔÏ ÐÒÏÍÅÖÕÔÏÞÎÙÊ ÂÕÆÅÒ, ÉÍÈÏ, ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍ. HÏ ÎÅÏÂÑÚÁÔÅÌØÎÏ Ó ÔÒÉÓÔÁÂÉÌØÎÙÍ ×ÙÈÏÄÏÍ. äÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ, ÎÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ, ÏÂßÅÄÉÎÉÔØ × ÓÈÅÍÕ é ×ÓÅ ×ÙÈÏÄÙ SO (Ó ÐÏÄÔÑÖËÁÍÉ ÎÁ 3V ÉÌÉ 5V ÄÌÑ ËÁÖÄÏÇÏ ÕÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×Á Ó×ÏÅ) É ÂÕÄÅÔ ÄÏÓÔÉÇÎÕÔÁ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÁÑ ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ. äÌÑ ÔÅÈ, ËÔÏ ÌÀÂÉÔ ÓÏÂÉÒÁÔØ ÜÌÅÍÅÎÔÙ ÌÏÇÉËÉ ÉÚ ÄÏÓÔÕÐÎÙÈ ÔÒÁÎÚÉÓÔÏÒÏ×-ÄÉÏÄÏ× - ÂÏÌØÛÏÅ ÐÏÌÅ ÄÌÑ ÆÁÎÔÁÚÉÉ.
3. ÅÓÌÉ ÍÁÓÔÅÒ CMOS, ÔÏ ÂÕÆÅÒ(ÐÏ ×ÙÈÏÄÕ SO) × ÌÀÂÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÎÕÖÅÎ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÄÌÑ ÓÏÇÌÁÓÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÕÒÏ×ÎÅÊ.
4. ÐÏ ÒÅÓÕÒÓÕ ÜÔÉÈ ÆÌÅÛ - ×ÎÉÚÕ ÔÏÐÉË ÏÔ ÆÁË-ÒÏÂÏÔÁ. ïÔ ÉÍÈÏ ÍÏÇÕ ÄÏÂÁ×ÉÔØ, ÞÔÏ ÎÅ ÚÒÑ ÁÔÍÅÌ ÓËÒÏÍÎÏ ÕÍÁÌÞÉ×ÁÅÔ Ï ÜÔÏÍ ÒÅÓÕÒÓÅ × ÜÔÉÈ ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÈ. HÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÏÎ ÇÁÒÁÎÔÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÂÏÌÅÅ 10000 ÚÁÐÉÓÅÊ, ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ. HÁ ÐÒÁËÔÉËÅ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ÓÔÁÌËÉ×ÁÔØÓÑ Ó ÔÁËÉÍÉ ×ÅÝÁÍÉ, ËÁË, ÎÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ, ÜÔÏ ÓÄÅÌÁÎÏ × ×ÉÎÞÅÓÔÅÒÁÈ (realocated table). ôÏ ÅÓÔØ ÇÏÔÏ×ØÔÅÓØ Ë ÔÏÍÕ, ÞÔÏ ÌÀÂÏÊ ÓÅËÔÏÒ × ÌÀÂÏÊ ÍÏÍÅÎÔ ÍÏÖÅÔ "ÏÔËÁÚÁÔØÓÑ" ÓÏÈÒÁÎÑÔØ ×ÁÛÕ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÀ, É ×ÁÍ ÐÒÉÄÅÔÓÑ ÐÒÉÂÅÇÁÔØ Ë ÍÅÔÏÄÁÍ ÈÒÁÎÅÎÉÑ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÉ × ÒÅÚÅÒ×ÎÙÈ ÏÂÌÁÓÔÑÈ ÌÉÂÏ ÉÚÎÁÞÁÌØÎÏ ××ÏÄÉÔØ ÉÚÂÙÔÏÞÎÏÅ ËÏÄÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÅ Ó ÃÅÌØÀ ×ÏÓÓÔÁÎÏ×ÌÅÎÉÑ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÉ ÞÁÓÔØ ËÏÔÏÒÏÊ ÎÅ ÞÉÔÁÅÔÓÑ/ÐÉÛÅÔÓÑ. èÏÔÑ ÏÓÔÁÌØÎÙÅ ÓÅËÔÏÒÁ ÏÔ ÜÔÏÇÏ ËÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏÇÏ ÜËÚÅÍÐÌÑÒÁ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÏÔÌÉÞÁÔØÓÑ ÏÞÅÎØ "ÐÒÉÍÅÒÎÙÍ" ÐÏ×ÅÄÅÎÉÅÍ É ×ÙÄÅÒÖÉ×ÁÔØ ÚÁÑ×ÌÅÎÎÙÊ ÒÅÓÕÒÓ.

With best regards, Peter Kostenko. BPLab Team

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• Forwarded by Peter Kostenko snipped-for-privacy@p2.f.n5015.z2.fidonet.org>
• Newsgroup: fido7.RU.EMBEDDED
• From: Sergei Tuchinski snipped-for-privacy@f38.n.z2.fidonet.org>
• Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:34:43 +0400
• To: Andy Chernyshenko
• Subj: ÷ÙÓÏËÏÓËÏpÏÓÔÎÏÅ ÓÏÐpÑÖÅÎÉÅ 3÷ Dataflash (AT45) c 5÷ ÐpÏÃÅÓÓÏpÏ ==========================================================================

äÏÂpÏÇÏ ÚÄÏpÏ×ØÑ, Andy!

28 Aug 01 15:12, Andy Chernyshenko ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Sergei Tuchinski:

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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=- Date: óp, 29 Á×Ç 2001 01:21:02 ïÔ: "Anil Godavarthi" snipped-for-privacy@atmel.com ëÏÍy: snipped-for-privacy@ecoresurs.ru ôÅÍÁ: Re: Dataflash endurance

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Sergei,

Endurance in DataFlash is specified as the number of writes (erase/program cycles) performed on a page before a bit in that page will fail to read correctly. For the 0.25um DataFlash family, the endurance is typically 50,000 cycles.

Higher endurance values can be achieved by incorporating error detection and correction, (ECC), since endurance failures tend to be of a single bit and random nature. All DataFlash products provide additional bytes within each page in the memory array. These additonal bytes can be used to help perform the ECC function. The 1Meg through 8Meg densities have 8 additional bytes per page, the 16Meg and 32Meg have 16 additonal bytes per page whilst the 64 Megbit has an additional 32 bytes for each page.

Sincerely,

Anil Godavarthi Applications Engineer FLASH/EEPROM Atmel Corporation

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Are there any limits of maximum amount of page erase/write cycles for Atmel dataflash chips, besides page regeneration mentioned in datasheet? If so, are they applied to each page particularly or to all chip in common?

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WBR, óÅpÇÅÊ. ICQ: 101347299

==================================================== With best regards, Peter Kostenko. BPLab Team

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, Peter!

12 Nov 03 19:03, Peter Kostenko ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Vladislav Viktorovich:

ÎÅÂÏÌØÛÏÊ ËÏÍÍÅÎÔÁÒÉÊ:

PK> ÄÅÌÁÔØ ÎÅÔ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÏÓÔÉ. ÔÒÉ ÄÉÏÄÁ × ÐÉÔÁÎÉÅ ÆÌÅÛËÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ PK> ÚÁÍÙËÁÔØ PK> ÐÅÒÅÍÙÞËÏÊ, ÅÓÌÉ ÄÏÓÔÁÌÉ ÐÑÔÉ×ÏÌØÔÏ×ÙÊ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ. ËÏÇÏ ÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ

× ÐÅÒ×ÏÊ ÐÒÏÂÎÏÊ ÐÌÁÔÅ, ÓÏÂÒÁÎÎÏÊ Ó ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ "ÔÒÅÈ ÄÉÏÄÏ×" ÎÅ ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ÐÒÏÈÏÄÉÌÏ ÓÔÉÒÁÎÉÅ ÓÔÒÁÎÉÃÙ. ôÏ ÂÉÛØ ÏÓÔÁ×ÁÌÉÓØ "ÐÌÁ×ÁÀÝÉÅ ÂÉÔÙ". ðÒÏ×ÅÒÅÎÏ ÖÅÌÅÚÎÏ, ÎÁ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÉÈ ÜËÚÅÍÐÌÑÒÁÈ ÆÌÅÛÅË (ÐÒÁ×ÄÁ, ÉÚ ÏÄÎÏÊ ÉÚ ÓÁÍÙÈ ÐÅÒ×ÙÈ ÐÁÒÔÉÊ, ÍÏÖÅÔ ÏÎÏ ÝÁÓ É ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ). ðÏÓÌÅ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏÊ ÓÈÅÍÙ ÐÉÔÁÎÉÑ (ÓÔÁÂÉÌÉÚÁÔÏÒ É ÅÍËÏÓÔØ) ÇÌÀË ÐÒÏÐÁÌ.

WBR, óÅÒÇÅÊ. ICQ: 101347299

Sergei Tuchinski" ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

îÕ 3 ÄÉÏÄÁ ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ ÍÎÏÇÏ. ñ ÔÁË ÓÞÉÔÁÌ, ÞÔÏ 2 É ÒÅÚÀË ÎÁ ÚÅÍÌÀ × 1 ËïÍ. ÷ ÌÀÂÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÍÅÒÓÉ ÚÁ ÐÒÅÄÕÐÒÅÖÄÅÎÉÅ. úÎÁÞÉÔÓÑ Ñ ÔÁË ÐÏÎÑÌ, ÞÔÏ ÓÔÁ×ÉÍ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÙÊ ÓÔÁÂÉÌÉÚÁÔÏÒ ÎÁ 3,3÷, ÐÏ SI, SO, SCK É CS ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ ÐÏ ÓÔÁÂÉÌÉÔÒÏÎÕ, Á ×ÙÈÏÔ ÇÏÔÏ×ÎÏÓÔÉ ×ÒÏÄÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÞÅÒÅÚ 1 ËïÍ Ë +5÷ ÐÏÄÔÑÎÕÔØ. åÓÔÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ ×ÓÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÉÔÅÌØÎÏ Ë ÐÒÏÃÁÍ ÎÁ 51 ÑÄÒÅ. éÌÉ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏ, ×ÓÅ ÖÅ ÎÅ ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØÓÑ ÒÁÄÉÏÌÀÂÉÔÅÌØÓÔ×ÏÍ É ÐÏÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÐÒÅÏÂÒÁÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ ? é ÅÝÅ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ. ñ ÔÁË ÐÏÎÑÌ, ÞÔÏ ×ÈÏÄ É ×ÙÈÏÄ ( SI É SO ) ÍÏÖÎÏ ×ÍÅÓÔÅ ÏÂßÅÄÅÎÉÔØ. üÔÏ ÔÁË?

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, Vladislav!

18 Nov 03 04:40, Vladislav Viktorovich ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Sergei Tuchinski:

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WBR, óÅÒÇÅÊ. ICQ: 101347299

Hello Sergei!

18 Nov 03 09:15, Sergei Tuchinski wrote to Vladislav Viktorovich: [...] VV>> HÕ 3 ÄÉÏÄÁ ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ ÍÎÏÇÏ. ñ ÔÁË ÓÞÉÔÁÌ, ÞÔÏ 2 É ÒÅÚÀË ÎÁ ÚÅÍÌÀ × VV>> 1 ËïÍ. ÷

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73 & Cheerio! Andy.

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, Andy!

19 Nov 03 00:30, Andy Chernyshenko ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Sergei Tuchinski:

AC> [...] VV>>> HÕ 3 ÄÉÏÄÁ ÎÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ ÍÎÏÇÏ. ñ ÔÁË ÓÞÉÔÁÌ, ÞÔÏ 2 É ÒÅÚÀË ÎÁ ÚÅÍÌÀ × VV>>> 1 ËïÍ. ÷

ST>> ÓÈÅÍÁ "ÔÒÉ ÄÉÏÄÁ" ÐÒÅÄÌÏÖÅÎÁ ÓÁÍÏÊ ÆÉÒÍÏÊ ÁÔÍÅÌ, × ÏÒÉÇÉÎÁÌØÎÏÍ ST>> ÁÐÐÎÏÔÅ

AC> óÓÙÌËÕ ÎÁ ÎÏÍÅÒ ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁ, pse.

Interfacing the 3-volt DataFlashR with a 5-volt System

WBR, óÅÒÇÅÊ. ICQ: 101347299

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