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Sergei Tuchinski 21 years ago

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, All!
ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ

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Alexey V Bugrov 21 years ago

Hello, Sergei! You wrote to All on Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:48:05 +0300:

ST> ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ST> ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ST> ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ

ñ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ. îÉËÁËÉÈ ÓÌÏÖÎÏÓÔÅÊ ÉÌÉ ÇÒÁÂÌÅÊ ÎÅ ×ÓÔÒÅÔÉÌ. äÅÍÏ-ÐÒÏÅËÔ ÌÅÖÉÔ ÚÄÅÓØ:

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Ruslan Mohniuc 21 years ago

Hi Sergei !

óÏ×ÓÅÍ ÎÅÄÁ×ÎÏ 17 Feb 05 13:48, Sergei Tuchinski ÐÉÓÁÌ Ë All:

ST> ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ST> ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ST> ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ âÅÚ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍ. ïÐÉÒÁÌÓÑ ÎÁ ÔÏÔ ÐÒÏÅËÔ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ âÕÇÒÏ× ÕÐÏÍÑÎÕÌ - ÓÐÁÓÉÂÏ ÅÍÕ ÂÏÌØÛÏÅ! äÅÌÁÌ ÎÁ PIC18. äÏÛÅÌ ÄÏ FAT16, ÔÏ ÅÓÔØ ÓÒÁÚÕ ÄÁÎÎÙÅ × ×ÉÄÅ ÆÁÊÌÏ× ÎÁ CF ÐÉÛÕ, ÏÞÅÎØ ÕÄÏÂÎÏ ÄÌÑ ÓÞÉÔÙ×ÁÎÉÑ × ÐÉÓÉÛËÕ. ðÒÏÂÌÅÍÏÊ ÏËÁÚÁÌÏÓØ ÎÁÊÔÉ ÒÁÚßÅÍ ÄÌÑ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÅÎÉÑ CF. ÷ ÒÅÚÕÌØÔÁÔÅ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÌ ×ÙÄÒÁÎÎÙÊ ÉÚ ÎÏÕÔÂÕËÁ PCMCIA-ÎÙÊ ÒÁÚßÅÍ. åÝÅ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ- ÒÁÚÄÅÒÂÁÎÉÔØ ÒÉÄÅÒ ËÏÍÐÁËÔ-ÆÌÅÛÅË, ×ÓÅ ÄÅÛÅ×ÌÅ É ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ, ÞÅÍ ÎÏ×ÙÊ ÅÄÉÎÉÞÎÙÊ ÒÁÚßÅÍ ÎÁÊÔÉ.

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Alex Samutin 21 years ago

Thu Feb 17 2005 13:48, Sergei Tuchinski wrote to All:

ST> ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ST> ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ST> ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ

á ÜÔÏ ÚÁ×ÉÓÉÔ ÏÔ ÔÏÇÏ ÞÔÏ ÔÙ ÉÍÅÅÛØ ××ÉÄÕ ÐÏÄ "ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ Ó CompactFlash" üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, Á ÎÏÇÉ ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA. ðÒÏÔÏËÏÌ ÎÉÖÎÅÇÏ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ ÔÏÖÅ ÎÅÓÌÏÖÅÎ. HÏ ×ÏÔ ÄÁÌØÛÅ... åÓÌÉ ÔÅÂÅ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÉÍÅÔØ ÄÏÓÔÕÐ Ë memory card ÜÔÏ ÏÄÎÏ, Á ÅÓÌÉ ÈÏÞÅÛØ , ÓËÁÖÅÍ, WI-FI ËÁÒÔÏÞËÕ, ÔÏ ÓÏ×ÓÅÍ ÄÒÕÇÏÅ.

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Vadik Akimoff 21 years ago

Hi!

In a message of 17 Feb 05 Alex Samutin wrote to Sergei Tuchinski:

AS> üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, AS> Á ÎÏÇÉ ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA.

é ËÒÏÍÅ ÔÏÇÏ, ÜÔÏ ATA, ÞÔÏ ÐÏÚ×ÏÌÑÅÔ ÀÚÁÔØ CF ËÁË ÏÂÙÞÎÙÅ IDE-×ÉÎÔÙ, ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÁÑ ÉÈ ÐÒÉ ÐÏÍÏÝÉ ÁÄÁÐÔÅÒÁ ÔÉÐÁ '2 ÒÁÚߣÍÁ Ó ÐÒÏ×ÏÄÁÍÉ' Ë IDE-ÛÉÎÅ. ÷ÐÒÏÞÅÍ, ÒÏ×ÎÏ ÔÁË ÖÅ ÏÎÉ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÁÀÔÓÑ É Ë pcmcia, É ÐÏÄÏÂÎÙÍ ÖÅ ÁÄÁÐÔÅÒÏÍ.

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Alex Samutin 21 years ago

Thu Feb 17 2005 23:20, Vadik Akimoff wrote to Alex Samutin:

VA> Hi!

VA> In a message of 17 Feb 05 Alex Samutin wrote to Sergei Tuchinski:

AS>> üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, AS>> Á ÎÏÇÉ ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA.

VA> é ËÒÏÍÅ ÔÏÇÏ, ÜÔÏ ATA,

üÔÏ ÎÅ ÓÏ×ÓÅÍ ÔÁË. HÅËÏÔÏÒÙÅ CF ËÁÒÔÙ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖÉ×ÁÀÔ True-IDE ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ, ÎÏ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔØ ÞÔÏ CF ÜÔÏ áôá - ÎÅÌØÚÑ.

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Kirill Frolov 21 years ago

AS> á ÜÔÏ ÚÁ×ÉÓÉÔ ÏÔ ÔÏÇÏ ÞÔÏ ÔÙ ÉÍÅÅÛØ ××ÉÄÕ ÐÏÄ "ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ Ó CompactFlash"

AS> üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, Á AS> ÎÏÇÉ AS> ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA.

üÔÏ ÎÅ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, Á ÏÂÙÞÎÙÊ ATA.

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Alexey V Bugrov 21 years ago

Hi Alex, hope you are having a nice day!

18 æÅ× 05, Alex Samutin wrote to Vadik Akimoff:

VA>> é ËÒÏÍÅ ÔÏÇÏ, ÜÔÏ ATA, AS> üÔÏ ÎÅ ÓÏ×ÓÅÍ ÔÁË. HÅËÏÔÏÒÙÅ CF ËÁÒÔÙ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖÉ×ÁÀÔ True-IDE ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ, AS> ÎÏ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔØ ÞÔÏ CF ÜÔÏ áôá - ÎÅÌØÚÑ.

ñ ÂÙ ÓËÁÚÁÌ, ÞÔÏ ×ÓÅ Storage Class CF ÏÂÑÚÁÎÙ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖÉ×ÁÔØ True IDE Mode.

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Alexey V Bugrov 21 years ago

Hi Kirill, hope you are having a nice day!

18 æÅ× 05, Kirill Frolov wrote to Alex Samutin:

AS>> üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ AS>> PCMCIA, Á ÎÏÇÉ ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA.

KF> üÔÏ ÎÅ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, Á ÏÂÙÞÎÙÊ ATA.

÷ÏÏÂÝÅ-ÔÏ Õ CF 3 ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ. ÷ ÒÅÖÉÍÅ Memory Card ÜÔÏ ×ÓÅ-ÔÁËÉ PCMCIA.

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Sergei Tuchinski 21 years ago

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, Alex!

17 Feb 05 22:03, Alex Samutin ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Sergei Tuchinski:

ST>> ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ST>> ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ST>> ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ

AS> á ÜÔÏ ÚÁ×ÉÓÉÔ ÏÔ ÔÏÇÏ ÞÔÏ ÔÙ ÉÍÅÅÛØ ××ÉÄÕ ÐÏÄ "ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ Ó CompactFlash"

AS> üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, Á AS> ÎÏÇÉ AS> ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA.

AS> ðÒÏÔÏËÏÌ ÎÉÖÎÅÇÏ ÕÒÏ×ÎÑ ÔÏÖÅ ÎÅÓÌÏÖÅÎ. HÏ ×ÏÔ ÄÁÌØÛÅ... åÓÌÉ ÔÅÂÅ ÎÕÖÎÏ AS> ÉÍÅÔØ AS> ÄÏÓÔÕÐ Ë memory card ÜÔÏ ÏÄÎÏ, Á ÅÓÌÉ ÈÏÞÅÛØ , ÓËÁÖÅÍ, WI-FI ËÁÒÔÏÞËÕ, ÔÏ AS> ÓÏ×ÓÅÍ ÄÒÕÇÏÅ.

ÓÐÁÓÉÂÏ ÚÁ ÏÔ×ÅÔ, Ñ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ-ÔÏ ÈÏÞÕ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÅÅ ËÁË flash card, ÔÏ ÂÉÛØ ÚÁÐÉÓØ ÂÌÏËÏ×, FAT16 É Ô.Ð. ëÁËÏÊ ÒÅÖÉÍ × ÜÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÌÕÞÛÅ ÐÒÅÄÐÏÞÅÓÔØ? EMI-ËÏÎÔÒÏÌÌÅÒ × ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÅ ÅÓÔØ, É ÎÏÇ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ

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Sergei Tuchinski 21 years ago

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, Ruslan!

17 Feb 05 19:49, Ruslan Mohniuc ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Sergei Tuchinski:

ST>> ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ST>> ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ST>> ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ RM> âÅÚ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍ. ïÐÉÒÁÌÓÑ ÎÁ ÔÏÔ ÐÒÏÅËÔ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÊ âÕÇÒÏ× ÕÐÏÍÑÎÕÌ - ÓÐÁÓÉÂÏ ÅÍÕ RM> ÂÏÌØÛÏÅ! äÅÌÁÌ ÎÁ PIC18. äÏÛÅÌ ÄÏ FAT16, ÔÏ ÅÓÔØ ÓÒÁÚÕ ÄÁÎÎÙÅ × ×ÉÄÅ RM> ÆÁÊÌÏ× ÎÁ RM> CF ÐÉÛÕ, ÏÞÅÎØ ÕÄÏÂÎÏ ÄÌÑ ÓÞÉÔÙ×ÁÎÉÑ × ÐÉÓÉÛËÕ. ðÒÏÂÌÅÍÏÊ ÏËÁÚÁÌÏÓØ ÎÁÊÔÉ RM> ÒÁÚßÅÍ ÄÌÑ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÅÎÉÑ CF. ÷ ÒÅÚÕÌØÔÁÔÅ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÌ ×ÙÄÒÁÎÎÙÊ ÉÚ ÎÏÕÔÂÕËÁ RM> PCMCIA-ÎÙÊ ÒÁÚßÅÍ. åÝÅ ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ- ÒÁÚÄÅÒÂÁÎÉÔØ ÒÉÄÅÒ ËÏÍÐÁËÔ-ÆÌÅÛÅË, ×ÓÅ RM> ÄÅÛÅ×ÌÅ RM> É ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ, ÞÅÍ ÎÏ×ÙÊ ÅÄÉÎÉÞÎÙÊ ÒÁÚßÅÍ ÎÁÊÔÉ.

× ÂÕÒÏÍ ÍÅÄ×ÅÄÅ ÅÓÔØ × ÎÁÌÉÞÉÉ ÒÁÚßÅÍÙ

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Ruslan Mohniuc 21 years ago

Hi Sergei !

óÏ×ÓÅÍ ÎÅÄÁ×ÎÏ 18 Feb 05 10:11, Sergei Tuchinski ÐÉÓÁÌ Ë Ruslan Mohniuc:

RM>> ðÒÏÂÌÅÍÏÊ ÏËÁÚÁÌÏÓØ ÎÁÊÔÉ ÒÁÚßÅÍ ÄÌÑ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÅÎÉÑ CF.

ST> × ÂÕÒÏÍ ÍÅÄ×ÅÄÅ ÅÓÔØ × ÎÁÌÉÞÉÉ ÒÁÚßÅÍÙ äÁ ÔÙ ÞÔÏ! óòïþHï âåòé! ñ ÎÅ ÛÕÞÕ- ÓÁÍ ÇÏÄÉË-Ä×Á ÎÁÚÁÄ ÉÓËÁÌ, ÔÁË ÎÅ ÂÙÌÏ × ÎÁÌÉÞÉÉ ÎÉÇÄÅ. ðÏÚÄÒÁ×ÌÑÀ, ÐÏÌÏ×ÉÎÕ ÚÁÄÁÞÉ ÔÙ ÕÖÅ ÒÅÛÉÌ. (üÈ, Ñ ÄÁÖÅ ÐÏÚÁ×ÉÄÏ×ÁÌ Ô×ÏÅÍÕ ÓÞÁÓÔØÀ :)

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Alexey V Bugrov 21 years ago

Hi Ruslan, hope you are having a nice day!

18 æÅ× 05, Ruslan Mohniuc wrote to Sergei Tuchinski:

ST>> × ÂÕÒÏÍ ÍÅÄ×ÅÄÅ ÅÓÔØ × ÎÁÌÉÞÉÉ ÒÁÚßÅÍÙ RM> äÁ ÔÙ ÞÔÏ! óòïþHï âåòé! RM> ñ ÎÅ ÛÕÞÕ- ÓÁÍ ÇÏÄÉË-Ä×Á ÎÁÚÁÄ ÉÓËÁÌ, ÔÁË ÎÅ ÂÙÌÏ × ÎÁÌÉÞÉÉ ÎÉÇÄÅ. RM> ðÏÚÄÒÁ×ÌÑÀ, ÐÏÌÏ×ÉÎÕ ÚÁÄÁÞÉ ÔÙ ÕÖÅ ÒÅÛÉÌ. RM> (üÈ, Ñ ÄÁÖÅ ÐÏÚÁ×ÉÄÏ×ÁÌ Ô×ÏÅÍÕ ÓÞÁÓÔØÀ :)

HÕ ÎÅ ÓÏ×ÓÅÍ ÔÁË ÕÖ ×ÓÅ ÓÔÒÁÛÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ. ñ ÎÁÞÁÌ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ Ó CF 4 ÇÏÄÁ ÎÁÚÁÄ, ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏ, × ÒÏÚÎÉÃÕ ÎÁÊÔÉ ÂÙÌÏ ÐÏÞÔÉ ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ (Ñ ÎÁÛÅÌ ÓÅÍÐÌÙ ÔÏÌØËÏ × Micro-EM), ÎÏ ÏÔ ÕÐÁËÏ×ËÉ ËÕÐÉÔØ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÌÅÇËÏ ÓÏ ÓÒÏËÏÍ ÐÏÓÔÁ×ËÉ 3 ÎÅÄÅÌÉ. õÞÉÔÙ×ÁÑ ÂÒÏÓÏ×ÕÀ ÓÔÏÉÍÏÓÔØ ÒÁÚßÅÍÁ (ÍÅÎØÛÅ Ä×ÕÈ ÂÁËÓÏ×), É ËÏÌ-×Ï × ÕÐÁËÏ×ËÅ (180 ÛÔÕË) ÄÌÑ ÍÅÌËÏÊ ÓÅÒÉÉÉ ÉÚÄÅÌÉÊ ÍÏÖÎÏ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ÂÙÌÏ ÐÏËÕÐÁÔØ.

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Anatoly Mashanov 21 years ago

Hello Sergei!

17 Feb 05 13:48, you wrote to All:

ST> ËÔÏ-ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÉÚ ÐÏÄÐÉÓÞÉËÏ× ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ Ó CompactFlash? ÅÓÌÉ ÍÏÖÎÏ, ST> ÏÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ, ËÁËÉÅ ×ÐÅÞÁÔÌÅÎÉÑ, ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÓÌÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÈ × ST> ÜÈÏÔÁÇÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ

ñ ÎÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÌ, ÓÒÁÚÕ ÓËÁÖÕ. HÏ Ñ ÒÁÓÓÍÁÔÒÉ×ÁÌ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ ÏÂ ÉÈ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÅÎÉÉ × ËÁÞÅÓÔ×Å IDE ×ÉÎÔÏ× ÄÌÑ ×ÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÍÏÇÏ ÄÉ×ÁÊÓÁ, É ÎÁ ÏÓÎÏ×ÁÎÉÉ ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÏÇÏ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÁÀ, ÞÔÏ ÏÂÒÁÝÅÎÉÅ Ë ÎÉÍ ÎÉÞÅÍ ÎÅ ÏÔÌÉÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÏÔ ÏÂÒÁÝÅÎÉÑ Ë ×ÉÎÔÁÍ - ÐÒÉ ÔÏÍ ÕÓÌÏ×ÉÉ, ÒÁÚÕÍÅÅÔÓÑ, ÅÓÌÉ ËÔÏ-ÔÏ ÒÁÚÄÏÂÕÄÅÔ ÐÏÄÈÏÄÑÝÉÅ ÒÁÚßÅÍÙ É ÓÄÅÌÁÅÔ ÐÁÓÓÉ×ÎÙÅ (ôÏ ÅÓÔØ, ÎÅ ÓÏÄÅÒÖÁÝÉÅ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ, ËÒÏÍÅ ÐÒÏ×ÏÄÏ×) ÐÅÒÅÈÏÄÎÉËÉ Ó IDE ÎÁ CF.

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Alex Samutin 21 years ago

Fri Feb 18 2005 07:39, Kirill Frolov wrote to Alex Samutin:

AS>> üÌÅËÔÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÉÎÔÅÒÆÅÊÓ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ ÐÒÏÓÔ. üÔÏ ÓÌÅÇËÁ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA, Á AS>> ÎÏÇÉ ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÅÇÏ ÒÁÓÔÕÔ ÏÔ ISA.

KF> üÔÏ ÎÅ ÏÂÒÅÚÁÎÎÙÊ PCMCIA,

äÁ? ÷ÏÔ ÉÚ Ó The CF+ card provides high capacity data storage and I/O functions that electrically comply with the Personal Computer Memory Card International Association standard (PCMCIA) Minor differences between the CF+ Specification and the PC Card standard are documented in the Appendix at the end of this specification. ... 8.1 Differences between CF/CF+ and PCMCIA, and between CF-ATA and PC Card-ATA/True IDE

- CF is not TTL compatible, it is a purely CMOS interface. Refer to Section

4.2 of this specification.

- The minimum pull up resistor input leakage is 50k ohms rather than the 10k ohms stated in the PCMCIA specification.

- The Wait Width Time for CompactFlash Storage Cards is 350 ns and is 3us for CF+ Cards, rather than 12 us as stated in the PCMCIA specification.

ôÏ ÅÓÔØ CF ÏÔÌÉÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÏÔ PCMCIA ÔÅÍ ÞÔÏ ÒÁÓÓÞÉÔÁÎÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÎÁ 3.3÷ É, ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓ×ÅÎÎÏ, ÏÔÓÕÔÓ×ÕÀÔ ÌÉÎÎÉ ÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÅ ÚÁ ×ÙÂÏÒ ÍÅÖÄÕ 5 É 3 ×ÏÌØÔÁÍÉ.

KF>Á ÏÂÙÞÎÙÊ ATA.

A CompactFlash Storage Card also runs in True IDE Mode that is electrically compatible with an IDE disk drive. Other CF+ devices such as magnetic disk drives may also run in True IDE Mode.

The CompactFlash Storage Cards on-card intelligent controller manages interface protocols, data storage and retrieval as well as Error Correcting Code (ECC), defect handling and diagnostics, power management and clock control. Once the CompactFlash Storage Card has been configured by the host, it appears to the host as a standard ATA (IDE) disk drive.

åÓÌÉ ×ÓÅ ÍÕÈÉ ÌÅÔÁÀÔ, ÔÏ ÉÚ ÜÔÏÇÏ ÎÅ ÓÌÅÄÕÅÔ ÔÏÇÏ ×ӣ, ÞÔÏ ÌÅÔÁÅÔ ÜÔÏ ÍÕÈÉ. ÷ÏÔ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÌÅÖÉÔ ÓÅÔÅ×ÁÑ CF ËÁÒÔÏÞËÁ É ËÁËÉÍ ÂÏËÏÍ Ë ÎÅÊ áôá ÏÔÎÏÓÉÔÓÑ? ôÏÌØËÏ CF Storage Card ÏÂÑÚÁÎÙ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖÉ×ÁÔØ áôá.

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Ruslan Mohniuc 21 years ago

Hi Alexey !

óÏ×ÓÅÍ ÎÅÄÁ×ÎÏ 18 Feb 05 17:40, Alexey V Bugrov ÐÉÓÁÌ Ë Ruslan Mohniuc:

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Kirill Frolov 21 years ago

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Alex Samutin 21 years ago

Fri Feb 18 2005 10:09, Sergei Tuchinski wrote to Alex Samutin:

ST> ÓÐÁÓÉÂÏ ÚÁ ÏÔ×ÅÔ, Ñ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ-ÔÏ ÈÏÞÕ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØ ÅÅ ËÁË flash card, ÔÏ ST> ÂÉÛØ ÚÁÐÉÓØ ÂÌÏËÏ×, FAT16 É Ô.Ð. ëÁËÏÊ ÒÅÖÉÍ × ÜÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÌÕÞÛÅ ST> ÐÒÅÄÐÏÞÅÓÔØ? EMI-ËÏÎÔÒÏÌÌÅÒ × ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÅ ÅÓÔØ, É ÎÏÇ ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ

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Vladimir V. Teplouhov 21 years ago

Hello Sergei.

17 Feb 05 13:48, you wrote to All:

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Sergei Tuchinski 21 years ago

äÏÂÒÏÇÏ ÚÄÏÒÏ×ØÑ, Alex!

19 Feb 05 03:46, Alex Samutin ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Sergei Tuchinski:

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