AVR vs PIC

Eugene Zhernovoy · 2004-06-20T00:15:22+00:00

Прошу прощения за глупый вопрос, а чем микроконтроллеры AVR лучше, чем PICMicro? Или, точнее, так: почему их предпочитают производители электроники? Мне просто интересно, почему потенциальные работодатели ставят обязательным условием программирование AVR, а про ПИКи - ни слова?

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Alexander Torres 22 years ago

ðÒÉ×ÅÔ Alexey!

Friday June 25 2004 19:07, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Alexander Torres:

AT>> èÏÔÑ ×ÏÏÏÂÝÅ × ÓÔÁÒÏÍ ÄÏÓÏ×ÓËÏÍ ÓÉÍÕÌÑÔÏÒ ÄÌÑ ÐÉËÏ× - ÂÙÌÁ ÔÁËÁÑ AT>> ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏÓÔØ, ÚÁÓÅÞØ ×ÒÅÍÑ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÅÎÉÑ ÆÕÎËÃÉÉ. ÷ íÐÌÁÂÏ×ÓËÏÍ ÍÐÓÉÍÅ - AT>> Ó ÈÏÄÕ Ñ ÜÔÏÇÏ ÎÅ ÎÁÛÅÌ (Ñ ×ÏÏÂÝÅ ÉÍ ÎÅ ÐÏÌØÚÕÀÓØ), Á ÐÏÓËÏÌØËÕ AT>> ÜÍÕÌÑÔÏÒ ÐÏÄËÌÀÞÅÎ - ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ ÂÙÌÏ ÔËÎÕÔØ ÓËÏÐ ÎÁ ÅÇÏ ÛÌÅÊÆ. AB>

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Maxim Polyanskiy 22 years ago

Hello, George!

ðÑÔ éÀÎ 25 2004, George Shepelev ÐÉÓÁÌ Ë Maxim Polyanskiy ÐÏ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ "AVR vs PIC." MP>> á ÞÔÏ ÄÏÌÖÎÁ ÂÙÔØ ËÁËÁÑ-ÔÏ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ Ó ÅÇÏ ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔØÀ? ÷ MP>> ÐÉËÅ ÐÒÉÅÍÎÉË ÄÔÍÆ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÁ 4ÍÇÃ, ÔÏÌØËÏ ÎÁ ÁÓÍÅ É ÔÏÌØËÏ MP>> ÐÒÉÅÍÎÉË. GS> åÓÌÉ PIC ÕÍÅÅÔ PWM (Á ÂÏÌØÛÉÎÓÔ×Ï ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÙÈ - ÕÍÅÀÔ), ÐÅÒÅÄÁÔÞÉË GS> ÔÏÖÅ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ. äÒÕÇÏÅ ÄÅÌÏ, ÚÁÞÅÍ ÔÁË ÕÒÏÄÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ, ËÏÇÄÁ ÅÓÔØ ÇÏÔÏ×ÙÅ GS> DTMF-ËÒÉÓÔÁÌÌÙ? äÁ ÄÅÌÏ ÎÅ × ÔÏÍ ÞÔÏ ÅÓÔØ, Á × ÔÏÍ ÞÔÏ ËÏÅ Õ ËÏÇÏ ÅÓÔØ É äôíæ ÎÁ ÓÑÈ × 2-4 ÒÁÚÁ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ ÞÅÍ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÎÁ ÁÓÍÅ, É "ÄÒÕÇÏÊ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍ ËÏÒÒÅËÃÉÉ BCH", ÍÎÅ ÏÞÅÎØ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÎÏ, ÜÔÏ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ËÁËÉÅ-ÔÏ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÐÒÏÒÙ×Ù, ÉÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÎÁÏÂÏÒÏÔ ÒÅÇÒÅÓÉ×ÎÙÅ ÍÅÔÏÄÉËÉ ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÉ, ÉÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÂÁÎÁÌØÎÙÊ ÇÏÎ. ;) GS> çÅÏÒÇÉÊ WBR! Maxim Polyanskiy.

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Artem Kamburov 22 years ago

÷ÓÅÍ ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ.

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Artem Kamburov 22 years ago

÷ÓÅÍ ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ.

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Artem Kamburov 22 years ago

÷ÓÅÍ ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ.

÷ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ ÔÙ ÂÕÄÅÛØ ÓÉÌØÎÏ ÕÄÉ×ÌÅÎ, ÎÏ ËÒÉÓÔÁÌÌÙ ÄÅÌÁÀÔÓÑ ÎÁ ÏÞÅÎØ ÏÇÒÁÎÉÞÅÎÎÏÍ ÞÉÓÌÅ ÚÁ×ÏÄÏ×. ðÒÉÞÅÍ ÒÁÚÎÙÅ ÌÉÎÉÉ ÓÕÝÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏ ÏÔÌÉÞÁÀÔÓÑ. é ÓËÁËÁÔØ ÐÏ ÌÉÎÉÑÍ ×ÅÓØÍÁ ÞÒÅ×ÁÔÏ. ïÓÔÁÌØÎÙÅ ÚÁ×ÏÄÙ ÐÏ ×ÓÅÍÕ ÍÉÒÕ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÚÁÐÉÈÉ×ÁÀÔ ÇÏÔÏ×ÙÅ ËÒÉÓÔÁÌÌÙ × ËÏÒÐÕÓ.

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George Shepelev 22 years ago

Rifkat, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

ðÑÔÎÉÃÁ éÀÎØ 25 2004 09:33, Rifkat Abdulin wrote to George Shepelev:

GS>> ìÉÞÎÏ ÍÎÅ ÎÅ ÎÒÁ×ÉÔÓÑ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÓÒÅÄÉ ÄÅۣ×ÙÈ ^^^^^^^ GS>> PIC-Ï× ÎÅÔ Ä×ÕÈUARTÎÙÈ, × ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÙÈ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÅÎÉÑÈ ÜÔÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÂÙ GS>> ÐÏÌÅÚÎÏ. íÏÖÎÏ, ËÏÎÅÞÎÏ, ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏ "×ÙËÒÕÞÉ×ÁÔØÓÑ" ÉÌÉ GS>> ÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÄÏÐÏÌÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÊ ÞÉÐ... RA> úÁÞÅÍ?

úÁÔÅÍ, ÞÔÏ ÄÌÑ Ó×ÑÚÉ ÎÁÄÏ _Ä×Á_ UART'Á. ë ÐÒÉÍÅÒÕ, ÕÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×Ï ÃÅÐÌÑÅÔÓÑ "× ÒÁÚÒÙ×" ÌÉÎÉÉ, ÉÌÉ ÏÂßÅÄÉÎÑÅÔ/ÒÁÚÄÅÌÑÅÔ Ä×Á ÐÏÔÏËÁ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ.

RA> ôÏÌØËÏ ×ÞÅÒÁ ÚÁËÕÐÉÌ 3 PIC18F8720 × ðÌÁÔÁÎÅ - ×ÙÛÌÏ Ó ÎÄÓ ÐÏ 16.5 $ RA> õÖ ÞÅÇÏ ÔÁÍ × ÎÉÈ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÎÅÔ ;-)

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George Shepelev 22 years ago

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George Shepelev 22 years ago

Alex, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

ðÑÔÎÉÃÁ éÀÎØ 25 2004 13:51, Alex Kouznetsov wrote to Artem Kamburov:

äÌÑ ÐÅÒÅÈÏÄÁ ÎÁ ÎÏ×ÕÀ ÔÅÈÎÏÌÏÇÉÀ, ÓÔÒÏÑÔ. åÓÌÉ ÎÅ ÚÁ×ÏÄ, ÔÏ ÃÅÈ. HÅ ÐÒÅËÒÁÝÁÑ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ ÏÓÔÁÌØÎÙÈ ÚÁ×ÏÄÏ×/ÃÅÈÏ×.

AK>> óÉÌØÎÏ ÕÔÒÉÒÕÑ - ÐÒÅÄÓÔÁ×Ø, ÞÔÏ AK>> ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÊ ÃÉËÌ ÒÁÓÞÉÔÁÎÎÙÊ ÎÁ 1000000 ÞÉÐÏ× ÂÕÄÅÔ ÚÁÐÕÝÅÎ AK>> ÄÌÑ ÉÚÇÏÔÏ×ÌÅÎÉÑ ÔÏÌØËÏ 1000 ÛÔÕË Á ÄÁÌØÛÅ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÓÔÏÑÔØ (Á ÁÒÅÎÄÁ AK>> ËÁÐÁÅÔ, ÏÞÉÓÔËÁ ×ÏÚÄÕÈÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ...). AK> ðÏ ÓÒÁ×ÎÅÎÉÀ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÉÍÏÓÔØÀ ÚÁÐÕÓËÁ ÎÏ×ÏÊ ÌÉÎÉÉ - ÜÔÏ ËÏÐÅÊËÉ.

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George Shepelev 22 years ago

Alexey, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

ðÑÔÎÉÃÁ éÀÎØ 25 2004 14:18, Alexey Boyko wrote to George Shepelev:

GS>> ÷ÏÔ ÔÅÂÅ (ÎÅÐÏÌÎÙÊ) ÓÐÉÓÏÞÅË ÉÚ ÔÏÇÏ-ÖÅ ÐÒÁÊÓÁ, AB> ûÏ ÚÁ ÐÒÁÊÓ?

ims.kharkov.ua. ôÏ, ÞÔÏ ÃÅÎÁ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÂÙÔØ "ÚÁÄÒÁÎÁ", Ñ ÐÒÅÄÕÐÒÅÖÄÁÌ.

GS>> ATtiny28L-4PI 8 GS>> ATtiny15L-1PI 10,8 GS>> ATmega8-16PI 28 GS>> ATmega16-16PI 30 GS>> ATmega32-16PI 35 GS>> ATmega8515-16PI 35 GS>> ATmega8535-16PI 27,5 AB> ïÄÉÎ DIP. TQFP - ÄÅÛÅ×ÌÅ.

äÌÑ ÏÔÌÁÄËÉ ÍÅÎÑ ÐÏËÁ ÞÔÏ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ DIP ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÕÅÔ. óÒÁ×ÎÉ×ÁÌÉÓØ DIP Ó DIP.

AB> ÷ÏÔ ×ÉÁËÏÍÏ×ÓËÉÊ (ÂÅÚ Häó, ÏÔ 10 ÛÔ.): AB> attiny15L-1SI 7 AB> attiny28L-4PI 5.3 AB> atmega8-16PI 14.5 AB> atmega8-8AI 10 AB> atmega8-8MI 11.5 AB> atmega16-16AI 22.7 AB> atmega16-16PI 28 AB> atmega32-16PI 29 AB> atmega32-16AI 22 AB> atmega8515-16PI 15 AB> atmega8535-16PI 16.7

ïÞÅÎØ ÈÏÒÏÛÏ. ãÅÎÙ ÎÁ PIC'É ÔÏÖÅ ÐÏÉÝÉ ÐÏ Ó×ÏÉÍ ÐÒÁÊÓÁÍ, ÞÔÏÂÙ ÓÒÁ×ÎÅÎÉÅ ÂÙÌÏ ÁÄÅË×ÁÔÎÙÍ.

ðÒÅÄÌÏÖÉ ÄÌÑ ÎÁÞÁÌÁ ÚÁÍÅÎÕ ÎÁ ×ÏÔ ÔÁËÉÅ PIC'É:

PIC12F629 8 pin, comparator, int. oscillator PIC12F675 8 pin, 4*10 ADC, comparator, int oscillator PIC16F630 14 pin, comparator, int. oscillator PIC16F676 14 pin, 8*10 ADC, comparator, int. oscillator PIC16F818 18 pin, 5*10 ADC, PWM, I2C/SPI, int. oscillator PIC16F628A 18 pin, 2 comparators, PWM, USART, int. oscillator PIC18F1320 18 pin, 7*10 ADC, 1 PWM, UART, int. oscillator PIC16F73 28 pin, 5*8 ADC, 2 PWM, USART, I2C/SPI PIC16F873A 28 pin, 5*10 ADC, 2 comparators, 2 PWM, USART, M2C/SPI PIC18F248 28 pin, 5*10 ADC, PWM, USART, I2C/SPI, CAN

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Alexander Torres 22 years ago

ðÒÉ×ÅÔ Artem!

Saturday June 26 2004 12:54, Artem Kamburov wrote to Dima Orlov:

AK> From: "Artem Kamburov" snipped-for-privacy@i.com.ua>

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AK> ÷ÓÅÍ ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ. AK>

AK> èÍ... õ ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÙÈ á÷ò-Ï× ËÁË ÒÁÚ ÄÌÑ Ô×ÏÅÇÏ ÓÌÕÞÁÑ ÅÓÔØ ÁÓÉÎÈÒÏÎÎÙÊ ÒÅÖÉÍ AK> ÔÁÊÍÅÒÁ (Õ Tiny15 ÅÇÏ ÔÁËÔÏ×ÁÑ ÄÏ 26íçÃ, Õ Tiny26 ÄÏ 64íçÃ)

á ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒ ×ÎÅÛÎÉÊ ÇÄÅ ÂÒÁÔØ?

Alexander Torres, 2:461/28 aka 2:461/640.28 aka 2:5020/6400.28 aka snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com

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Dima Orlov 22 years ago

Hello, Artem Kamburov !

ëÁËÁÑ Ó×ÑÚØ Ó ÎÅÓÕÝÅÊ PWM?

ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, äÉÍÁ ïÒÌÏ×.

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Dima Orlov 22 years ago

Hello, Artem Kamburov !

üÔÏ ÔÁË. HÏ ×ÓÅ ÏÓÔÁÌØÎÏÅ - ÎÅ ÂÏÌÅÅ, ÞÅÍ Ô×ÏÉ ÉÚÍÙÛÌÅÎÉÑ. ëÁË ÆÁËÔ, íÉËÒÏÞÉÐ ÎÅ Ó×ÏÒÁÞÉ×ÁÅÔ ËÁÖÄÙÅ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÏ ÌÅÔ ÉÍÅÀÝÉÅÓÑ ÌÉÎÅÊËÉ É ÎÅ ÍÅÎÑÅÔ ÉÈ ÎÁ ÐÏÌÎÏÓÔØÀ ÎÏ×ÙÅ ÓÏ Ó×ÏÉÍ ÎÁÂÏÒÏÍ ÂÁÇÏ× É ÇÌÀËÏ×. ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, äÉÍÁ ïÒÌÏ×.

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Vladimir Vassilevsky 22 years ago

Sat Jun 26 2004 14:04, Dima Orlov wrote to Artem Kamburov:

DO> ëÁËÁÑ Ó×ÑÚØ Ó ÎÅÓÕÝÅÊ PWM? AT> á ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒ ×ÎÅÛÎÉÊ ÇÄÅ ÂÒÁÔØ?

÷ Tiny26 ÅÓÔØ PLL, ËÏÔÏÒÁÑ ÍÎÏÖÉÔ 1MHz RC-ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒ ÄÏ 64MHz É ÔÁËÔÉÒÕÅÔ ÜÔÏÊ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÊ ÔÁÊÍÅÒ. óÏÏÔ×ÅÔcÔ×ÅÎÎÏ, ÍÏÖÎÏ ÉÍÅÔØ ×ÅÓØÍÁ ×ÙÓÏËÕÀ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÕ ÎÅÓÕÝÅÊ PWM.

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Dima Orlov 22 years ago

Hello, Vladimir Vassilevsky !

ôÉÎÉ - ÓÌÉÛËÏÍ ÍÅÌËÏÅ, ÎÅ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÎÏÅ.

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Alex Gavrikov 22 years ago

úÄÒÁ×ÓÔ×ÕÊ, Alexey!

Friday June 25 2004 14:02, you (2:4624/8.208) wrote to Vladimir Vassilevsky:

AB>> avr-gcc, mega128, 3.6864 MHz AB> ðÅÒÅÍÅÒÑÌ. 3.2ms ÉÌÉ ÏËÏÌÏ 12378 ÔÁËÔÏ×.

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Vladimir Vassilevsky 22 years ago

Sat Jun 26 2004 12:28, Maxim Polyanskiy wrote to George Shepelev:

MP> äÁ ÄÅÌÏ ÎÅ × ÔÏÍ ÞÔÏ ÅÓÔØ, Á × ÔÏÍ ÞÔÏ ËÏÅ Õ ËÏÇÏ ÅÓÔØ É äôíæ ÎÁ ÓÑÈ × MP> 2-4 ÒÁÚÁ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ ÞÅÍ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÎÁ ÁÓÍÅ, É "ÄÒÕÇÏÊ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍ ËÏÒÒÅËÃÉÉ BCH", MP> ÍÎÅ ÏÞÅÎØ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÎÏ, ÜÔÏ ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ËÁËÉÅ-ÔÏ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÐÒÏÒÙ×Ù, MP> ÉÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÎÁÏÂÏÒÏÔ ÒÅÇÒÅÓÉ×ÎÙÅ ÍÅÔÏÄÉËÉ ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÉ, ÉÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÂÁÎÁÌØÎÙÊ ÇÏÎ.

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George Shepelev 22 years ago

Maxim, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

óÕÂÂÏÔÁ éÀÎØ 26 2004 12:28, Maxim Polyanskiy wrote to George Shepelev:

MP>>> á ÞÔÏ ÄÏÌÖÎÁ ÂÙÔØ ËÁËÁÑ-ÔÏ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ Ó ÅÇÏ ÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÉÔÅÌØÎÏÓÔØÀ? ÷ MP>>> ÐÉËÅ ÐÒÉÅÍÎÉË ÄÔÍÆ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÁ 4ÍÇÃ, ÔÏÌØËÏ ÎÁ ÁÓÍÅ É ÔÏÌØËÏ MP>>> ÐÒÉÅÍÎÉË. GS>> åÓÌÉ PIC ÕÍÅÅÔ PWM (Á ÂÏÌØÛÉÎÓÔ×Ï ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÙÈ - ÕÍÅÀÔ), GS>> ÐÅÒÅÄÁÔÞÉË ÔÏÖÅ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ. äÒÕÇÏÅ ÄÅÌÏ, ÚÁÞÅÍ ÔÁË ÕÒÏÄÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ, GS>> ËÏÇÄÁ ÅÓÔØ ÇÏÔÏ×ÙÅ DTMF-ËÒÉÓÔÁÌÌÙ? MP> äÁ ÄÅÌÏ ÎÅ × ÔÏÍ ÞÔÏ ÅÓÔØ, Á × ÔÏÍ ÞÔÏ ËÏÅ Õ ËÏÇÏ ÅÓÔØ É äôíæ ÎÁ ÓÑÈ × MP> 2-4 ÒÁÚÁ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ ÞÅÍ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÎÁ ÁÓÍÅ,

áÓÍ - ÎÅ ÐÁÎÁÃÅÑ, ÉÍ ÔÏÖÅ ÎÁÄÏ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÕÍÅÔØ ;) ë ÔÏÍÕ ÖÅ ÎÁÄÏ Åݣ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÔØ, ÎÁÓËÏÌØËÏ ÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÏ ÜÔÏÔ DTMF ÒÅÁÌÉÚÏ×ÁÎ...

MP> É "ÄÒÕÇÏÊ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍ ËÏÒÒÅËÃÉÉ BCH", ÍÎÅ ÏÞÅÎØ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÎÏ, ÜÔÏ MP> ÄÅÊÓÔ×ÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ËÁËÉÅ-ÔÏ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÐÒÏÒÙ×Ù, ÉÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÎÁÏÂÏÒÏÔ MP> ÒÅÇÒÅÓÉ×ÎÙÅ ÍÅÔÏÄÉËÉ ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔËÉ, ÉÌÉ ÜÔÏ ÂÁÎÁÌØÎÙÊ ÇÏÎ. ;)

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George Shepelev 22 years ago

Artem, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

óÕÂÂÏÔÁ éÀÎØ 26 2004 12:54, Artem Kamburov wrote to Dima Orlov:

ôÏÌËÕ-ÔÏ, PIC18 ÒÁÂÏÔÁÀÔ ÎÁ 40 íçÃ (Ó 10 íçÃ Ë×ÁÒÃÅÍ)...

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Maxim Polyanskiy 22 years ago

Hello, Vladimir!

÷cË éÀÎ 27 2004, Vladimir Vassilevsky ÐÉÓÁÌ Ë Maxim Polyanskiy ÐÏ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ "AVR vs PIC." VV> ôÙ ËÕÌØÈÁÃËÅÒ - ÏÐÔÉÍÉÚÉÒÕÅÛØ Ó×ÏÉ ÂÉÔÉËÉ É ÂÁÊÔÉËÉ, Á ÈÒÅÎ ÌÉ ÔÏÌËÕ. VV> ÷ÓÅ ÁÌÇÏÒÉÔÍÙ ÏÞÅ×ÉÄÎÙ É ÔÒÉ×ÉÁÌØÎÙ, ÏÐÉÓÁÎÙ × ËÕÞÅ ËÎÉÖÅË É ÄÁ×ÎÏ VV> ×ÙÌÏÖÅÎÙ ÎÁ

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