AVR vs PIC

Wednesday July 07 2004 12:05, Alexey Boyko wrote to Vladislav Baliasov:

AB>>> ëÕÐÉ ÔÅÓÔÅÒ UNI-T UT70B (~70$) ôÁÍ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒ ÎÁ 400MHz. á ÎÁ AB>>> ÐÉËÁÈ ÄÅÌÁÊ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÄÒÕÇÏÅ. éÂÏ, ÞÔÏ 20kHz, ÞÔÏ 10MHz, ÞÔÏ 20Mhz - AB>>> ÜÔÏ ÍÁÌÏ ÄÌÑ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒÁ. VB>> äÁ. ðÏÜÔÏÍÕ ÎÁ PIC16 ÐÒÅËÒÁÓÎÏ ÐÏÌÕÞÁÀÔÓÑ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒÙ ÄÏ 50 MHz VB>> ÛÔÁÔÎÏ (ÒÅÁÌØÎÏ ÒÁÂÏÔÏÓÐÏÓÏÂÎÙÅ É ÄÏ 60+ MHz), AB>

AB> õ ðéëÁ ÁÓÉÎÈÒÏÎÎÙÊ ÔÁÊÍÅÒ?

Alexander Torres, 2:461/28 aka 2:461/640.28 aka 2:5020/6400.28 aka snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com

Wednesday July 07 2004 16:06, Alexander Golov wrote to Alexey Boyko:

AB>>>>>> ps: öÄÕ ÚÁÍÅÎÕ atmega48 ÓÒÅÄÉ PIC-Ï×. GS>>>>> ô×ϣ ÄÅÌÏ, ÈÏÞÅÛØ ÖÄÁÔØ - ÖÄÉ ;) AB>>>> ôÏ ÅÓÔØ ÎÅÔÕ, ÄÁ? AG>

AG>>> óÍÏÔÒÅÌ, ÓÍÏÔÒÅÌ Ñ ÎÁ ATmega48 É ÎÅ ÐÏÎÑÌ × ޣÍ ÅÇÏ ÕÎÉËÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ. AG>

AB>> õÎÉËÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ × ÃÅÎÅ. ïËÏÌÏ 1.5$ AG>

AG> ñ ÐÏÄÕÍÁÌ ÞÔÏ ÓÐÏÒ × ÔÅÈÎÉÞÅÓËÏÊ ÏÂÌÁÓÔÉ. HÁÓËÏÌØËÏ ÍÎÅ ÉÚ×ÅÓÔÎÏ PIC'Ï× AG> ÔÁËÏÇÏ ÒÁÚÍÅÒÁ ÚÁ $1,5 × ÍÅÌËÉÈ ÐÁÒÔÉÑÈ ÎÅÔ (×ÒÏÄÅ PIC16F72 ÏËÏÌÏ $2,

AG> ÎÏ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÍÅÎØÛÅ), ÈÏÔÑ ×ÏÔ DO ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÁÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÅÍÕ ÄÉÌÌÅÒÙ Atmel ÎÅ AG> ÍÏÇÕÔ ÐÅÒÅÂÉÔØ ÃÅÎÕ ÄÉÌÌÅÒÏ× Microchip ÎÁ ÐÒÏÍÙÛÌÅÎÎÙÈ ÐÁÒÔÉÑÈ.

AG> á ÚÁÞÅÍ ÜËÏÎÏÍÉÔØ $1 ÎÁ ÐÁÒÔÉÑÈ × ÓÏÔÎÉ ÛÔÕË Ñ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÍÏÇÕ (ÓÁÍ Ñ

Alexander Torres, 2:461/28 aka 2:461/640.28 aka 2:5020/6400.28 aka snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com

Wednesday July 07 2004 21:39, Yuriy K wrote to Dima Orlov:

YK> From: "Yuriy K" snipped-for-privacy@taekwondo.co.nz>

YK>

YK> Wed Jul 07 2004 18:20, Dima Orlov wrote to Alexey Boyko: YK>

DO>> ôÁË Ó ËÁËÏÊ ÍÁËÓÉÍÁÌØÎÏÊ ÞÁÓÏÔÏÊ? YK>

YK> 4MHz @ 8MHz internal calibrated RC

"üÔÏ ÎÅ ÐÏ ÓÐÏÒÔÉ×ÎÏÍÕ" !

while (1) PORTA^=1;

ìÉÞÎÏ Õ ÍÅÎÑ, ÍÁËÓÉÍÁÌØÎÏ ÂÙÓÔÒÏ ÜÔÏ ÐÏÌÕÞÉÌÏÓØ ÔÁË:

asm("movlw 1"); L1: asm("xorwf PORTA"); goto L1;

Alexander Torres, 2:461/28 aka 2:461/640.28 aka 2:5020/6400.28 aka snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com

Hello, Yuriy K !

07 Jul 04 18:25, Vladimir Vassilevsky ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ ÄÌÑ Yuriy K:

HZ>>> á ×ÏÔ ÐÁÒÁÎÏÉÄÁÌØÎÙÊ ÕÒÏ×ÅÎØ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÏË - HZ>>> ÎÅ ÅÓÔØ ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ÈÏÒÏÛÁÑ ÉÄÅÑ. YK>> ðÒÅÄÕÐÒÅÖÄÅÎÉÊ ÂÙÔØ ÎÅ ÄÏÌÖÎÏ. óÏ×ÓÅÍ. VV> ÷ÓÅ-ÔÁËÉ, ÐÁÒÁÎÏÉÄÁÌØÎÙÊ ÕÒÏ×ÅÎØ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÏË ÚÁÄÁÌÂÙ×ÁÅÔ.

WBR, óÅÒÇÅÊ. ICQ: 101347299

Hello Alexander.

AB>> äÌÑ ÍÅÎÑ ÕÐÏÒ × ÔÏÍ, ÞÔÏ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÎÏÖÅË ÐÒÉ ÍÁÌÏÍ ËÏÒÐÕÓÅ, É AB>> ÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÒÞÎÏ ÍÎÏÇÏ ÔÁÊÍÅÒÏ× É ÅÓÔØ ADC. ïúõ ÍÎÏÇÏ. AG> 28 ÎÏÇ (ËÏÒÐÕÓÁ ML É Õ Microchip ÄÁ×ÎÏ ÅÓÔØ, ÎÏ ×ÅÄØ ÇÅÍÏÒÒÏÊÎÙ ÏÎÉ × AG> ÒÁÂÏÔÅ), Ä×Á 8-ÒÁÚÒÑÄÎÙÈ É ÏÄÉÎ 16-ÒÁÚÒÑÄÎÙÊ ÔÁÊÍÅÒÙ, 256 ÂÁÊÔÏ× AG> ïúõ... úÄÅÓØ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ ÎÅÔ "ÍÎÏÇÏ", ÚÄÅÓØ ×ӣ "ÏÂÙÞÎÏ".

AG> éÌÉ ÜÔÏ ×ӣ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ × ËÏÎÔÅËÓÔÅ $1,5?

Alexey

Hello Alexander.

DO>>> ëÓÔÁÔÉ, Ó ËÁËÏÊ ÍÁËÓÉÍÁÌØÎÏÊ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÊ DO>>> ÕÍÅÀÔ ÁÔÍÅÌÏ×ÓËÉÅ ËÒÉÓÔÁÌÌÙ ÍÁÈÁÔØ ÎÏÖËÏÊ ÏÔ R-C (×ÎÅÛÎÅÇÏ)? AB>> ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ sbi/cbi ×ÙÐÏÌÎÑÀÔÓÑ 2 ÔÁËÔÁ, ÔÁË ËÁË Read-Modify-Write. AB>> åÓÌÉ HÕÖÎÏ ÂÙÓÔÒÅÅ, ÔÏÇÄÁ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏÊ out - 1 ÔÁËÔ, ÎÏ ÅÊ ÎÕÖÎÏ AB>> ÄÁÎÎÙÅ ÓÎÁÞÁÌÁ ÐÒÉÇÏÔÏ×ÉÔØ. (out - ÐÉÛÅÔ ÂÁÊÔ × ÐÏÒÔ, sbi/cpi - AB>> ÉÍÅÎÑÀÔ ÏÄÉÎ ÂÉÔ) AB>>

AB>> ðÏ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ ×ÎÅÛÎÅÇÏ R-C, ÔÏ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÞÉÔÁÔØ External RC Oscillator AB>> AppNote (Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÅÇÏ ÎÅÔ), ÎÏ ÐÏÈÏÖÅ, ÞÔÏ ÅÇÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÚÁÐÕÓÔÉÔØ ÎÁ AB>> ÍÁËÓÉÍÁÌØÎÏÊ ÄÌÑ ÞÉÐÁ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÅ. (äÌÑ atmega48/88/168 - 20MHz) F = AB>> 1/(3RC), C >= 22pF AT> äÌÑ ÐÉËÁ, ÎÁ 4ÍÇÃ, ÍÁËÓ. ÞÁÓÔÏÔÁ ÍÁÈÁÎÉÑ ÎÏÖËÏÊ - ~180ËÇÃ.

loop: sbi PORT, bit ; 2 cbi PORT, bit ; 2 rjmp loop ; 2

ps: èÏÔÑ, × ÏÄÎÏÍ ÐÒÏÅËÔÅ Õ ÍÅÎÑ ÓÔÏÉÔ atmega8 Ó ×ÎÅÛÎÉÍ ãáð, ÔÏÌØËÏ ÄÌÑ ÆÏÒÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÓÉÇÎÁÌÁ ÎÁ ãáð, É ÔÁÍ Ñ ×ÓÅ ÔÁËÔÙ ÓÞÉÔÁÌ, É ÚÁÍÅÎÑÌ sbi ÎÁ out.

Alexey

Hello Vladislav.

AB>> á ÍÎÏÇÏ ÌÉ ÚÁÄÁÞ, ÔÒÅÂÕÀÝÉÈ ÉÚÍÅÒÅÎÉÑ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÙ Ó ÔÁËÉÍ ÄÉÁÐÁÚÏÎÏÍ? VB> ôÏ ÔÅÂÅ ÍÁÌÏ up 20 MHz, ÔÏ "ÍÎÏÇÏ ÌÉ ÚÁÄÁÞ"... ôÙ ÕÖ ÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÉÓØ, pls.

HÅ, Ñ ÉÍÅÌ × ×ÉÄÕ, ÞÔÏ ÄÌÑ ÐÒÉÂÏÒÁ "ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒ", 20MHz - ÍÁÌÏ, Á ÄÌÑ ÉÚÍÅÒÅÎÉÑ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÙ × ÓÏÓÔÁ×Å ËÁËÏÊ-ÔÏ ÄÒÕÇÏÊ ÚÁÄÁÞÉ - ÍÎÏÇÏ.

VB> ÷ÏÔ Ñ, Ë ÐÒÉÍÅÒÕ, ÓÄÅÌÁÌ ÕÖÅ ÔÒÉ ÒÁÚÎÏÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÈ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒÁ.

Alexey

Hello George.

AK>> ÷Ù×ÏÄ - ÈÒÁÎÉ ÂÉÔÏ×ÙÅ ÆÌÁÇÉ × òïH (32 ÛÔÕËÉ ÉÌÉ 16 ÓÔÁÒÛÉÈ)... GS> âÉÔÏ×ÙÅ ÆÌÁÇÉ AVR'Ï×ÓËÉÈ _ÐÏÒÔÏ×_ ÔÙ ÔÕÄÁ _ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉ_ ÎÅ ÐÏÍÅÓÔÉÛØ.

GS> é ÂÉÔÏ×ÙÅ ÔÁÂÌÉÞËÉ ÎÅ ×ÌÅÚÕÔ,

GS> ÓÌÉÛËÏÍ ÕÖ ËÒÏÛÅÞÎÏÅ ÐÒÏÓÔÒÁÎÓÔ×Ï ÜÔÉ GS> 32 ÒÅÇÉÓÔÒÁ (Ë ÔÏÍÕ ÖÅ ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÉÚ ÎÉÈ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÀÔÓÑ ÄÌÑ ÄÒÕÇÉÈ ÃÅÌÅÊ GS> É ÈÒÁÎÉÔØ ÔÁÍ ÄÁÎÎÙÅ ÎÅ ÐÏÌÕÞÉÔÓÑ).

AK>> è__Ï×ÙÅ ÔÁÍ ÃÅÎÙ. ðÏÞÔÉ ÎÁ ×ÓÅ, ÞÔÏ Ñ ÕÓÐÅÌ ÐÒÏÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ. õ ÎÁÓ ÎÁ AK>> ÒÁÄÉÏÂÁÚÁÒÅ É ÔÏ ÄÅÛÅ×ÌÅ GS> èÁÒØËÏ× - ÎÅ ëÉÅ×.

Alexey

Hello George.

AB>> åÓÌÉ ÍÅÔÏÄ ÉÚÍÅÒÅÎÉÑ - ÐÏÄÓÞÅÔ ÞÉÓÌÁ ÉÍÐÕÌØÓÏ× ÚÁ ÅÄÉÎÉÃÕ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÉ AB>> - ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ÕÐÉÒÁÅÔÓÑ × ÞÁÓÔÏÔÕ, Á ÎÅ ÛÉÒÉÎÕ ÔÁÊÍÅÒÁ. GS> HÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÏÓÔØ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏÊ ÜÍÕÌÑÃÉÉ "ÛÉÒÏËÏÇÏ" ÔÁÊÍÅÒÁ ÓÎÉÖÁÅÔ ÒÁÂÏÞÕÀ GS> ÞÁÓÔÏÔÕ. é × ÌÀÂÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ ÁÐÐÁÒÁÔÎÙÊ ÔÁÊÍÅÒ × PIC ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ ÎÁ ÇÏÒÁÚÄÏ GS> ÂÏÌØÛÉÈ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÁÈ, ÞÅÍ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÏÔÒÁÂÁÔÙ×ÁÔØ AVR...

GS>>> íÅÖÄÕ ÐÒÏÞÉÍ, ÏÞÅÎØ ÕÄÏÂÎÁÑ ÛÔÕËÁ. íÁÌÅÎØËÉÊ ÄÅۣ×ÙÊ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒ. GS>>> ÷ÓÔÒÏÅÎÎÙÊ × M890F ÍÅÎÑ ÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ, 20 Ëçà - ÜÔÏ ÏÔËÒÏ×ÅÎÎÏ GS>>> ÍÁÌÏ. AB>> ëÕÐÉ ÔÅÓÔÅÒ UNI-T UT70B (~70$) GS> PIC ÓÔÏÉÔ ÏËÏÌÏ ÂÁËÓÁ. õÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×Ï × ÓÂÏÒÅ - ÂÁËÓÁ ÔÒÉ-ÞÅÔÙÒÅ. ñ×ÎÁÑ GS> ÜËÏÎÏÍÉÑ.

AB>> ôÁÍ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒ ÎÁ 400MHz. á ÎÁ ÐÉËÁÈ ÄÅÌÁÊ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÄÒÕÇÏÅ. GS> þÔÏ ÈÏÞÕ, ÔÏ É ÄÅÌÁÀ ;)

AB>> éÂÏ, ÞÔÏ 20kHz, ÞÔÏ 10MHz, ÞÔÏ 20Mhz - ÜÔÏ ÍÁÌÏ ÄÌÑ ÞÁÓÔÏÔÏÍÅÒÁ. GS> ó ÞÅÇÏ ÂÙ ÜÔÏ? ñ ÓÅÊÞÁÓ Ó ÓÉÌÏ×ÙÍÉ ÐÒÅÏÂÒÁÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌÑÍÉ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÀ, ×ÙÛÅ GS> ÍÅÇÁÇÅÒÃÁ ÍÅÒÑÔØ ÎÅ ÎÕÖÎÏ (ÐÒÏ ÚÁÐÁÓ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÄÏ 10-30 íçà GS> ÐÒÅÄÕÓÍÏÔÒÅÔØ). á ×ÏÔ 20 Ëçà - Ñ×ÎÏ ÍÁÌÏ :-(

AB>> äÌÑ ÎÏÒÍÁÌØÎÏ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÎÏÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ ÐÏÄ AVR - Idle - ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÊ AB>> ÒÅÖÉÍ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ. GS> üÔÏ ÚÁ×ÉÓÉÔ ÏÔ ËÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏÊ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ. ðÏÐÒÏÂÕÊ × ÔÁËÏÍ ÒÅÖÉÍÅ DTMF GS> ÆÏÒÍÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ;)

HÏ ÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÅÎÉÅ ËÏÎÅÞÎÏ ÂÏÌØÛÅ ÂÕÄÅÔ, ÞÁÓÔÏÔÁ ÐÒÅÒÙ×ÁÎÉÊ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÂÏÌØÛÅ.

GS>>> üÔÏ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ ÎÉÞÅÍ ÎÅ ÏÔÌÉÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÏÔ sleep Ó GS>>> ÒÁÚÒÅۣÎÎÙÍÉ ÐÒÅÒÙ×ÁÎÉÑÍÉ × 630. AB>> þÉÔÁÌ ÒÁÚÄÅÌ, ÐÒÏ SLEEP × PIC18. HÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ, ÞÔÏ × sleep ÔÁËÔÏ×ÙÊ AB>> ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒ ÏÓÔÁÎÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÅÔÓÑ. GS> çÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒ, ÏÔ ËÏÔÏÒÏÇÏ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓÏÒÎÏÅ ÑÄÒÏ ËÒÕÔÉÔÓÑ. éÍÅÎÎÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÔÙ GS> ÐÒÏÓÉÌ.

AB>> ïÄÎÁËÏ ÞÕÔØ ÎÉÖÅ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ, ÞÔÏ ×ÓÑËÉÅ ÔÁÊÍÅÒÙ É UARTÙ ÍÏÇÕÔ AB>> ×Ù×ÏÄÉÔ CPU ÉÚ SLEEP. ëÁË ÏÎÉ ÜÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔ ÂÅÚ ÔÁËÔÏ×ÏÇÏ ÇÅÒÅÎÁÔÏÒÁ AB>> - Ñ ÎÅ ÐÏÎÑÌ. GS> õ ÎÉÈ _Ó×ÏÊ_ ÇÅÎÅÒÁÔÏÒ, ÎÅÚÁ×ÉÓÉÍÙÊ. ÷ÎÉÍÁÔÅÌØÎÅÅ ÄÏËÕ ÞÉÔÁÊ!

Alexey

Hello Rifkat.

AB>> ôÅÍ ÎÅ ÍÅÎÅÅ, ÁÄÒÅÓÎÏÅ ÐÒÏÓÔÒÁÎÓÔ×Ï ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÏÄÎÏ, ÌÉÎÅÊÎÏÅ. AB>> ÷ ÏÔÌÉÞÉÅ ÏÔ x51, Ó ÅÇÏ data/idata/xdata, É ðéë, ÇÄÅ áð ÂØÅÔÓÑ ÎÁ AB>> ÓÔÒÁÎÉÃÙ. RA> × 18 ÐÉËÁÈ ÕÖÅ ÎÅ ÂØÅÔÓÑ.

HÕ ÎÅ ÚÎÁÀ, ÍÁÎÕÁÌ ÐÉÛÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÂØÅÔÓÑ. ðÏ ËÒÁÊÎÅÊ ÍÅÒÅ ËÏÍÁÎÄÁ bt(ËÁË ÔÁÍ ÄÁÌØÛÅ ÎÅ ÐÏÍÎÀ), ÓÏÄÅÒÖÉÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ 8 ÂÉÔ ÁÄÒÅÓÁ.

Alexey

Hello Dima.

DO> åÓÌÉ ÚÁÄÁÞÁ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ Ó ÂÏÌØÛÉÍÉ ÍÁÓÓÉ×ÁÍÉ AVR ÕÄÏÂÎÅÊ DO> É ÂïÌØÛÉÍ ÏÂßÅÍÏÍ É ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ÂÏÌÅÅ ÇÉÂËÏÊ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÃÉÅÊ. HÏ ÅÓÌÉ DO> ÚÁÄÁÞÁ ÄÒÕÇÁÑ, ÐÒÅÉÍÕÝÅÓÔ×Á ÏÂÏÒÁÞÉ×ÁÀÔÓÑ ÎÅÄÏÓÔÁÔËÁÍÉ.

Alexey

Hello Alex.

AM>>> test.c: In function `SomeFunction': AM>>> test.c:7: warning: array subscript has type `char' HZ>> á ÜÔÏ ÞÔÏ ÚÁ ÐÒÅÄÕÐÒÅÖÄÅÎÉÅ? AM> ëÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒ ÓÞÉÔÁÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÐÅÒÅÍÅÎÎÁÑ ÔÉÐÁ char ÐÒÅÄÎÁÚÎÁÞÅÎÁ ÄÌÑ AM> ÈÒÁÎÅÎÉÑ ÓÉÍ×ÏÌÏ×, É ÐÏÄÏÚÒÅ×ÁÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÎÉÅ ÅÅ × ËÁÞÅÓÔ×Å AM> ÉÎÄÅËÓÁ ÍÁÓÓÉ×Á - ÏÛÉÂËÁ. äÌÑ ÜÔÏÇÏ ÏÂÙÞÎÏ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÀÔ ÔÉÐ int. :)

Alexey

AK>> > А как паяют tqfp? AK>>

AK>> Reflow (горячим воздухом). Технология не позволяет за одну операцию AK>> припаять и SMD и трухолы.

AK> А чего вдруг TQFP волной не паяют? Шаг вроде как крупный - 1мм.

у pic18f8720 tqfp80 - шаг 0.5мм

Rifkat, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

DO>> âÙÌÉ ÐÒÅÃÅÄÅÎÔÙ, ËÏÇÄÁ É Ó WDT ÔÏÌØËÏ MCLEAR ÐÏÍÏÇÁÌ. RA> õÇÕ. ðÏÓÌÅ ÎÅÓËÏÌØËÉÈ ÔÁËÉÈ Ñ ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ÓÕÐÅÒ×ÉÚÏÒ Ó ×ÎÅÛÎÉÍ WDT ÓÔÁ×ÌÀ.

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