Re: A minimally moderated versionof this newsgroup

now you have defamed and offended Texas

Hey idiot. You've taken a thread that was existing in only one newsgroup, and posted a reply to multiple newsgroups, so you can extend your vendetta.

Has it occurred to you that this thread to some extent started likely because of that cross-posted thread about "how to post", and ultimately sci.electronics.basics is in fact relatively free of the junk that this thread wants to remedy? That once the sci.electronics.design threads (and personalities) end up in sci.electronics.basics it gives an illusion that the newsgroup is not friendly to beginners, which then makes someone want to start a moderated newsgroup. Don;t cross-post, and most of the problem goes away.

Michael

Try Kris Kristoferson (assuming you mean the writer) :)

i believe janois Joplin rented the philosphy from Kris Kristofferson (another Texan).

Parts of the subject was already crossposted to four newsgroups. I removed one which I don't know, and replied in 3 of them.

Then I used the same groups for the other messages which were parts of the same debate.

It was earlier, but now this abusive style has been dominating the group, so we may just as well discuss why people become abusive, and the ideologies which lay behind the behavior, and the historical roots of these ideologies. There is a certain lifestyle these abusers want to preserve, just like the people in Kansas who fight science in schools, because it threatens their lifestyle and culture.

They want to keep the gender roles and social dominance of violence, and they use the religion to justificate that lifestyle.

In more modern parts of the world we have abolished religion and churches, but the creationist lifestyle is still present, under new names and with new justifications. People are still forced to live at very high stress levels, the speed freaks still are frenetically happy, natural and sensitive people are still being mobbed, in schools, in workplaces, in the homes, in the society in general.

Now they justify this frenetic lifestyle with arguments like: you have to grow up and take responsibility for your own emotions, or you have to take care of your woman, you have to be a gentleman, etc..

The results of this cultural pattern are restlessness, workaholism, alcoholism, violence in media and in reality, fundamentalism, terrorism, mental problems, drug abuse, etc.. ...

Roy McCammon:

And Kansas! :-)

USA is one of the most violent and creationist countries in the world, and unfortunately it has had economic possibilities to spread its culture around the globe.

Today we see young kids here in Sweden who wear baseball caps and train karate kicks towards the smaller kids on the schoolyards, and gangsterlike rappers have become idols of the youth.

This admiration for violence and "respect" is very detrimental to mankind as a whole, and the present situation forces us to realize what is wrong with it and find a better way for or future.

It is probably only possible if the social leaders realize where their culture comes from, and chooses a new direction. We have to stop training boys in handling high levels of violence. We have to realize that there is a hidden violence in people's minds even if they do not think so when they are very loving to each other.

Love is often used just to cover the violence, and people train in balancing ever higher levels of inebriation and violence.

They call it "emotional development", "to grow as a personality", etc..

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Oh John...John...John...is this the best you can do? And here I was led to believe you were going to give me a run for my money. Perhaps it's late old man and you need your rest. Sweet dreams.

Jonny, you're definitely running out of inventive invective. Guess you're not as used to getting it as dishing it out, hey?

Come on now, where's the vilification, where's the childish swearing and calling into question ancestry, sexual preference and head shape?

This is so disappointing.

John Fortier

So clever. The rich play on the word, the deliberate mis-spelling of fool! The waiting and waiting for a chance to use this new and, oh so clever, word.

Rather pathetic really.

John Fortier

Nowhere near as much as Dubbya's crew in the White House, who are widely seen seen as a rabid pack of Texas oil-men. The consequent defamation of Texas is unavoidable - they've dumped a problem governor into a place where he can do even more damage - and while his antics don't seem to be offensive to the mindless Texans of the John Fields class, I imagine that a certain disquiet is circulating amongst those few Texans with a few neurones to rub together - not that their neighbours would tolerate any overt expression of this disquiet.

------- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Come now John. Therapists love that sort of woolly love-thy-neighbour stuff.

Of course, your Texan sensibilities perceive this as "sodomise-thy-neighbour" which you'd find intensely comic ....

-------- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

You don't think we have a monoculture down here do you?