politics, sorry, but this is great (2023 Update)

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Conservatives are better engineers too.

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John Larkin
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FMRI is about as useful as reading tea leaves, without getting a cup of tea.

In my direct experience, lefties are a lot more neurotic and afraid and unhappy with the world-as-it-is than libertarian types. That makes sense.

Engineers need guts. We need to take risks, explore possibilities, risk ridicule, ignore conventions and rules and peer pressures, misuse parts, and test things to destruction, preferably with sparks and smoke and loud noises.

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John Larkin

Oh, yeah, folk who congratulate themselves a lot, are sure happy about it. Grinning idiots are happier yet, one supposes.

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whit3rd

John Larkin wrote: ================

** Left wing "engineers" only write software code.

..... Phil

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Phil Allison

To paraphrase Mae West, a hardware man is good to find.

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jlarkin

Finding one willing to flatter John Larkin must be difficult. Finding one willing to flatter John Larkin's hardware design skills would be even more difficult.

John Larkin can clearly evolve useful hardware designs by small incremental (and largely random) changes, but design seems to be beyond him. It is a useful skill, but I've had to clean up after people who worked that way and the products were never pretty.

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Anthony William Sloman

On a sunny day (Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:55:19 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

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Jan Panteltje

Ignorance is bliss?

Or is it really so surprising that a group dedicated to old conservatives publishes an article saying something nice about old conservatives?

The term "conservative" can mean a great many things. In the USA, it is often associated with the kind of muppets who think the world was created a few thousand years ago, global climate change is a Chinese conspiracy, and that Trump won the election. People so disconnected with reality are not going to make good engineers - or be good at anything, really. (They might be happy, though that seems unlikely - it is more realistic that they would /claim/ to be happy.)

It can also mean someone who is careful, frugal and prefers tried-and-true solutions. That can be good for some engineering challenges, bad for others.

If by "conservative" you just mean people who tend to be somewhat more right-wing in their political outlook than average, but not extreme, then I expect it to be totally and utterly irrelevant to engineering ability.

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David Brown

But it's not. Socialists are literally more social than the average person. Leftists believe in collective action to govern everybody. They are more dogmatic, more tribal, more unhappy with the traditional norms of human behavior. More afraid.

Libertarians are more like "OK, I understand the rules of the gain, get out of my way and let me play to win."

Being social, tribal, means that one is hypersensitive to group behavior and peer pressure. And afraid of rejection by peers. That means, in engineering, doing everything by the book and being inhibited against presenting radical ideas. I see this all the time.

"What do you care what other people think?"

Richard Feynman

Exactly.

Great book, "Who Really Cares:" by Brooks.

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jlarkin

Right whingers are just scaredy-cats. Especially when it comes to AGW denial.

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Pomegranate Bastard

That's absurd. Discounting climate change, being optimistic about the future, is the opposite of being scared.

Kids today are literally afraid of the world being destroyed by climate change. "How dare you!" build what we have.

Some people don't want to bring children into a doomed world. Excellent; we'll have some beneficial selective breeding.

Good engineering rule of thumb: don't be scared.

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jlarkin

Mr. Larkin is scared of STDs though he's brought this up on a number of occasions.

Meanwhile millions of conservative Evangelical blowhards have been putting the fear of God into young adult about STDs for decades, and now the same ones are all running around no vaccines no masks.

But definitely be scared of sex outside of marriage you're gonna die from an STD that the average young adult who has sex outside of marriage has about a ten thousand times less chance of dying from than Covid.

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bitrex

Have to be able to experience the emotion of fear for courage to exist in the first place; a person who claims they never experience fear isn't a courageous person, they're simply a liar or fool, depending.

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bitrex

Dishing out abuse seems to make USA conservatives happy and there's a lot of different types of people to dish out abuse to, so if that's how being "happier" is defined I could see how they're the happiest.

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bitrex

Perhaps you're just pretending to be a right whinger.

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Pomegranate Bastard

I had to chuckle at the first statement. If you wanted to meet a real socialist today IRL where would you go. The socialist social club? DateASocialist.com?

Ok maybe in SF this is possible but SF isn't everywhere.

I don't understand why conservatives have a problem with people self-defining their gender identity, they let conservatives call themselves libertarians all the time on the grounds that they should have the liberty to do that...

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bitrex

Mostly not socialists that were freaking out all the restaurants and hair salons were closed for a while.

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bitrex

The rest of the time you have to do exactly what the policeman tells you lest someone get the opinion you don't support police sufficiently. That's bad.

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bitrex

In large part afraid of right-wing engineers whose preferred system of governance is some old white guy like themselves being supreme dictator of America, and utilizing their absolute God-emperor power to order the deaths of millions of conservative-defined genetic sub-humans unworthy of life.

Convention says building death camps is bad but conservatives who regularly ignore convention tend to be unpredictable.

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bitrex

Ah, so you have been a salesman.

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bitrex

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