0.1 ohm Resistors from Scratch Again

Sep 18, 2005 110 Replies

An rule of thumb that i have used for ages is: run no more than X milliamps of current thru a wire of X circular mils of area; this gives negligible IR losses.

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Robert Baer wrote (in ) about '0.1 ohm Resistors from Scratch Again', on Tue, 20 Sep 2005:

The conductor size based on voltage drop is very much larger than the conductor size based on temperature rise. A wire whose 'area' is X circular mils has a real area of 0.7854X x 10^-6 square inches. X mA through that area is a current density of 1273 A/in^2.

Modern transformers (in which it's quite difficult to dispose of the heat from the conductors) are commonly designed with a current density of 3000 A/in^2 or even more.

Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. If everything has been designed, a god designed evolution by natural selection. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

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I Googled for metric copper wire table and got over 300 000 "hits". What I found were tables of AWG with a column with the metric equivalent sizes, or IOW, just multiplying the diameter by 25.4. Few of the tables go below 40 AWG, which is what I need (some don't go below 30 or even 20 AWG).

I tried your suggestion, metric copper wire sizes. Many of the URLs are the same, judging by their purple color which means I've viewed them recently. I've spent a substantial amount of time searching thru them. A lightning storm passed thru, causing a momentary power failure which caused the PC to reboot, oh, well. I decided to watch TV for awhile, which doesn't have to spend time rebooting. ;-) If anyone wants to offer a URL, I'm willing to check it out. Meantime, I'm still searching.

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Halleluja! Found what I was looking for. Thank you, thank you.

BRB...

Looks like the wire I have is 0.067, which isn't bold, so it's a nonstandard size.

Thank you again. You've made a what was difficult search worthwhile.

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Well, that was my foot long wire 'test' resistor. It's 1.51 ohms. I figured out that for a tenth of an ohm, I'm gonna need less than an inch, something like .78 inch, which is going to be a small fraction of a microhenry. So no problem. And with the hairpin wind, I have to glue it to keep it from unwinding. Thanks.

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Fot 40 gauge, it's almost seven miles per pound. And it doesn't take a very big feel to hold several pounds.

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I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrote (in ) about '0.1 ohm Resistors from Scratch Again', on Tue, 20 Sep 2005:

I think you have something other than copper wire in mind. (;-)

Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. If everything has been designed, a god designed evolution by natural selection. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Arrrr, me buxom beauty.

(one day late for International Talk like a Pirate Day).

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

One day late, and a parrot short?

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I Googled for metric copper wire table and got over 300 000 "hits". What I found were tables of AWG with a column with the metric equivalent sizes, or IOW, just multiplying the diameter by 25.4. Few of the tables go below 40 AWG, which is what I need (some don't go below 30 or even

20 AWG).

I tried your suggestion, metric copper wire sizes. Many of the URLs are the same, judging by their purple color which means I've viewed them recently. I've spent a substantial amount of time searching thru them. A lightning storm passed thru, causing a momentary power failure which caused the PC to reboot, oh, well. I decided to watch TV for awhile, which doesn't have to spend time rebooting. ;-) If anyone wants to offer a URL, I'm willing to check it out. Meantime, I'm still searching.

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Well, that was my foot long wire 'test' resistor. It's 1.51 ohms. figured out that for a tenth of an ohm, I'm gonna need less than a inch, something like .78 inch, which is going to be a small fractio o a microhenry. So no problem. And with the hairpin wind, I have t glu it to keep it from unwinding. Thanks

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Halleluja! Found what I was looking for. Thank you, thank you.

BRB...

Looks like the wire I have is 0.067, which isn't bold, so it's a nonstandard size.

Thank you again. You've made a what was difficult search worthwhile.

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Arrrr, me buxom beauty.

(one day late for International Talk like a Pirate Day).

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" wrot (in ) about '0.1 ohm Resistor from Scratch Again', on Tue, 20 Sep 2005

I think you have something other than copper wire in mind. (;-

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Fot 40 gauge, it's almost seven miles per pound. And it doesn't take a very big feel to hold several pounds.

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One day late, and a parrot short?

Michael A. Terrel Central Florid

We sort of ballpark that straight round wire comes out something on the order of 20 nh per inch, so if you wound it single-turn on a quarter watt resistor, I doubt sincerely you'd get more than double that. If you are worried about 50 nh inductors, you've got more problems than an inch of wire.

Jim

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:35:29 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" Gave us:

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