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No it isn't you. I have heard this many times now.

I never found this to be the case. Although the filter isn't installed by default. But you can add it in Office's setup.

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No. The issue is whether you get the discount.

IBM was competing with OS/2.

It's perfectly relevant because it shows the only issue is a matter of the discount.

IBM was competing with OS/2. And if they weren't then why the hell did they keep trying to sell it?

That's irrelevant to giving discounts to your competition.

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Until you realize that Microsoft competitors are mostly controlled by MBA morons, you will never understand! As to beat a computer nerd, you need a better computer nerd. Something that Harvard will never understand. And believe me, Bill Gates as a nerd isn't all that great. In that respect he was lucky and he knows it. And the only thing he is really good at is beating MBA types. But most nerds has no problems in that area since those MBA types are generally are just morons anyway. Maybe someday you'll learn the truth. Maybe today or never, who knows?

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Nope. I am a exceptionally active personal computer user intimately familiar with the required monopoly operating system.

That's hardly current technology.

Maybe I should say a medium to high end current store-bought computer. It probably also depends on whether the system is loaded with many of the common bundled programs like Microsoft office and Norton Utilities.

These are my specs, all homemade. ... MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR mainboard ... Athlon XP 3000+ ... PC 3200, 1 GB RAM ... Western Digital Raptor 37 GB 10,000 rpm HDD ... external Creative Labs USB Live sound box

Hopefully soon. The eventual outcome is clearly logical.

The default voice, the only voice Microsoft currently provides is called Mary. There are lots of better voices.

With enough experience, you begin to realize that what Microsoft says is oftentimes mostly hype. That's a good example.

Try using it.

Again, experience suggests otherwise. The handicapped parking spaces are often very useful to people with disabilities. As an in-line skater, I definitely appreciate curbs that include ramps.

I pray that the implementation can be bad. Public transportation in my city is a good example of bad. There are better ways, but they haven't put enough thought into the design.

Sounds like you aren't willing to try.

I'm using it.

Sounds like frustration. I hear you.

Most computer things are very frustrating as I learned/learn them for the first time. Attempting speech-recognition and failing was worse than frustrating. It might even radically alter your opinion about the subject. With Microsoft's vast resource dollars and proficient management, Microsoft could help, investor willingness aside. Bill Gates owns a large percentage of Microsoft anyway.

:) I don't think anyone in the homebuilt PC group would consider that an obstacle.

Because it's not programmed to do so.

Microsoft has met serious resistance at the server operating system market. One of the factors is probably that CEOs are typically more intelligent than an average personal computer user and they don't want Microsoft limiting their server operating system quality.

Microsoft was able to force IBM not to use its own Lotus SmartSuite office applications on Microsoft's own personal computer line. Then IBM gave up the business of selling personal computers.

Only if he (or she) wants to live in a closet without being able to run the vast majority of personal computer software.

At one point, Apple Computer almost went out of business simply because Microsoft temporarily decided to discontinue making Office for the Mac.

It's a long story.

Bill Gates Jr. has more money than he or 10 generations could spend in a lifetime. All of the millions Bill Gates has given to women and race-based charities hasn't put a dance in his tens of billions in personal wealth.

Offers a web page with links? That's hardly exciting.

I'm not saying they aren't doing anything about it, I am saying that they are not very concerned. Microsoft used to publish a systemwide macro recorder called Macro Recorder. It came with Windows 3.11. According to Microsoft, one of its uses was to help the disabled. Unfortunately, Macro Recorder went out the back door. The lack of built-in scripting and speech are two areas where Microsoft clearly proves to me that Microsoft is not really interested in enabling users.

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There were some state government offices here which were unable to use Windows. Recently, Wal-Mart has been showing its lack of proficiency with automated checkout lanes that use Windows and don't work.

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Microsoft refused to allow IBM a license to Windows, unless IBM dropped its bundling of Lotus SmartSuite on IBM personal computers.

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No you still don't get it! Microsoft is only a so-called monopoly by default. But that isn't true either. As there are other OS available for the personal computer as well. But the dumb MBAs think they can outsmart Bill Gates and they fall like match sticks.

So let's say you or I had a business and all of our competitors were nothing but morons! And it was nothing for us to outsmart them even in our sleep. Some would call us a monopoly, now wouldn't they? Of course they would.

But the truth is our competitors were just too stupid to compete. This is exactly what Microsoft have found themselves in. And it isn't their fault that their competitors are just morons. They just are thanks to the likes of Harvard and the Harvard want to be's.

You just don't get it. A bunch of nerds get together and they start kicking Microsoft's butt. Somehow someone gets the idea that they need a MBA. Now Microsoft while before shaking in their boots (GEOS is a perfect example), comes along and wipes them clean. Why don't you get it?

I was in the business before Bill Gates' first program. I know exactly how he thinks and I know how to beat him is just child's play. But I sit here for all of these years and watch how his competitors screw up royally every time. Boy if I was greedy, I would have made a killing long ago.

Someday I hope you get it. Although unfortunately I believe you are currently not even close yet. But there is still hope.

__________________________________________________ Bill (using a Toshiba 2595XDVD under Windows 2000)

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One year, Microsoft pumped $650 million into our judicial system. That same system clearly settled that Microsoft holds monopoly power over the desktop operating system market.

From the federal district court of the United States.

"Microsoft possesses monopoly power in the market for Intel-compatible PC operating systems."

From the federal appeals court of the United States.

"... we uphold the District Court's finding of monopoly power in its entirety."

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You mean the license to resell Windows. Of course IBM isn't going to want to pay $50 more per computer than Compaq.

There was no competition in the desktop operating system market.

Microsoft was able to prevent that by threatening no license to resell Windows.

That may be true but irrelevant.

At the time, Windows was the required monopoly operating system. There was no competition in the desktop operating system market.

Do you understand that Microsoft holds monopoly power over the Intel-based personal computer operating system market?

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Perhaps but it's not unusual for the 'engineer', or geek type, who often like to 'build the best', or so they believe, and then blame limited acceptance on the 'stupidity' of the buyer, or a market conspiracy.

If they don't run the company then it's 'stupid management'.

But 'best' includes more than just the technical.

On the other hand, I'm not so sure it was Apple's closed box approach that was so much the 'mistake', after all, they all were at that time, as it was IBM's mishandling of the PC, which threw it open to a flood of clones, along with Microsoft providing the missing link of a competent O.S.. Although, if Microsoft hadn't someone else surely would have because that became too big a market to ignore.

But Apple might have fared much better if the market had remained proprietary system vs proprietary system, as it had always been.

A market leader completely loosing control over their product simply hadn't happened before.

"Kind hearted engineers?" hehe Well, there certainly are some but there are some real SOBs too ;)

But I'm not quite as willing to blame it all on 'corruption' as I am on the complexities of large hierarchical organizations populated by imperfect human beings. You don't have to be 'corrupt' to screw up ;)

On the other hand, a well established path to corporate doom is for the entrepreneur who started it to try running the whole she-bang as it grows beyond the ability of any one person to manage.

While there was certainly some of that involved I think it's more complicated.

From what I understand IBM held the BIOS proprietary and expected that to 'protect' the PC from copies but Award reverse engineered it and that was all she wrote. So, from IBM's perspective, all the prior PCs were technically a 'violation' of their proprietary rights.

There are some serious flaws in that logic but I can see IBM convincing themselves of it.

Does makes one wonder, though, why they didn't simply 'upgrade' the BIOS to the 'new and improved' V2.0 with new proprietary code, and stop issuing source, once they realized it had been breached but, who knows? Sure seems simple enough.

But after IBM's debacle with issuing BIOS source one can surely see why Microsoft doesn't do it.

Again, I think it's more fundamental. I mean, a 'soaring success' is often started by a 'great idea' but markets change, products mature, competitors move in, so where does the next 'great idea' come from? It isn't as if they're a dime a dozen, you know ;)

What, in particular, do you have in mind?

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Oh please! I had lost faith in the system when victims mostly gets screwed and the accused gets off lightly. And that doesn't count either. The real truth is the one with the most bucks usually wins. Did anything ever change with Microsoft, no not really after the ruling.

And even if you believe in the system, do you believe the judge and jury is going to understand anything about geeks and lines of code? One in a thousand might, but that is the bright side of things.

It is as plain as day to me, that Microsoft appears as a monopoly because Microsoft's competitors are whinny cry baby morons! They can't program their way out of a wet paper bag! And because they are so bad, they blame not themselves, but because Microsoft did it to them. Judges and juries like hearing this. But they are totally clueless when it comes right down to Microsoft competitors are nothing more than just plain old clueless idiots. And that makes Microsoft guilty? I think not!

Case in point. The court had ruled that McDonalds was at fault because hot coffee was hot. Yes the coffee was at 190 degrees like hot coffee should be. But the stupid lady was too dumb to know that hot coffee was hot. So McDonalds had to pay like 3.5 million dollars to this dumb ass lady. Yes I'm sorry she was a dumb ass, but I am not sorry enough for dumb asses to give them 3.5 million dollars or whatever it was. Now because of this, McDonalds now has a warning that hot coffee is hot. Are you getting any of this now, John?

Maybe to solve Microsoft's so-called monopoly problem, maybe MS should add a warning that its competitors are nothing but morons. Yes that's the ticket.

____________________________________________ Bill (using a Toshiba 2595XDVD under Windows 2000)

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