Re: Spice Model for ADI 500MHz Four-Quadrant Multiplier Added to my Website

Apr 15, 2025 Last reply: 1 year ago 8 Replies


Hello,


> Where can I find your AD834 spice model today?

Jim Thompson died some years ago - or at least we are fairly sure he did. He got pancreatic cancer, which is pretty reliably lethal, but claimed that it had been detected early, before he stopped posting.


Somebody here may have a copy of his Spice model. I actually used the part, but in a design that never actually made it to production, through we did get a couple of prototypes working. The AD834 and AD835 were remarkably fast, but not all that accurate. Analog Devices would be the place to ask, and they took over LTSpice when they took over linear technology.


They didn't manage to hang onto


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On 2025-04-15 08:30, FRAUBRJ wrote:> Hello, > Where can I find your AD834 spice model today? >

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No warranties, expressed or implied.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Unless one is really picky, a simple BV block can multiply.

Do they come in TSSOP?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

The BV price is better.

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I wonder if many peope have a need for an expensive precision analog multipier in real life.

In test sets, probably. Otherwise no.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs (Who last used one in about 1995)

Yeah, that sort of analog computing is a distant memory now.

Test sets? How?

We do still use some MDACs, but we'd go all digital in the future on that product. A 1 Ms/s 14-bit ADC is $2.

A simple test set that needs to compute the power dissipation in a complicated situation, for instance.

Making a measurement ratiometric by dividing out the strength of the excitation.

Test sets sometimes need to do relatively complicated things like that. If you're building one or ten, you'd probably far prefer to spend $50 and be done, rather than spend a week or two designing it like a product.

MDACs are pretty useful sometimes, because all-digital approaches are heavyweight.

For instance, in a control loop, you can get much better bandwidth with a 10 MHz, 14-bit AD5446 MDAC than a 1 MSa/s ADC plus processing plus some normal DAC. It's very common that the resolution required for the loop gain is much less than you'd need for a fully digital solution, so you just use an analog loop and tweak it digitally.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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