[Way OT] dieresis

D Yuniskis · 2010-03-01T21:58:07+00:00

Hi,I do a lot of formal writing (specifications, manuals, etc.).And, I suspect much of my spelling, vocabulary, grammar,etc. traits have remained largely unchanged since gradeschool. : and, I suspect the onlyway to try to get an answer would be to ask each to spellthe word (and hope their spelling practices haven't silentlychanged over the years).Am I alone in these ancient practices? E.g., how do youspell the reference book(set) called encyclo... ? I'vealready given up trying to understand how the elementAl is spelled on the other side of the pond. Amusing to question where these practices came from!(toilet paper: over the top or under the bottom? :> )OK, now we can get back to talking about electrocutingpeople...--don

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JosephKK 16 years ago

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My typical usage is to partition the new disk the way i want and copy the= =20 source tree to target partition the way i want it to be.

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And the sizes of the new partitions mirror the old ones. I don't seem to= =20 have come across a version of parted that will just do as i ask, instead=20 of second guessing me.

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Always. After making backups. I have 2 or 3 largish unused hard disks = handy.

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Yep, i have done that, once. Still creeps me a bit.

That is where parted usually tells me NO.

Oh well, I just hate to trash good working stuff though.

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Fred Abse 16 years ago

I've never used extended partitions. Four primary to a drive is enough for me. In fact three primary partitions are all I have, now: boot - swap - root, with the boot partition (/dev/hda1) mounted on /boot in /etc/fstab at startup.

I've never had any trouble with parted not doing what I wanted. I'll dig the manual out and refresh my memory on what it will/won't do. My version is old (1.6.3)

"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it." (Stephen Leacock)

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D Yuniskis 16 years ago

I don't run Linux so keep that in mind...

Can't you (or, *don't* you?) build slices *within* a "partition"? E.g., I can set up an x86 PC to use one of the (4) partitions for DOS, another for some variant of Windows a third for NetBSD 3.1 and the fourth for NetBSD 5.0.

DOS and Windows are happy -- since they deal with "partitions".

Within each of the NetBSD partitions, I create many (4, 8, 10?) "slices" (think: partition : disk :: slice : partition) and each of those is (potentially) a filesystem mounted someplace in the (NetBSD) hierarchy.

E.g., /, /var, /usr, /usr/local, /usr/pkg, /home ...

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Fred Abse 16 years ago

I don't run DOS or Windows. Strictly Microsoft-free zone here. Just Linux.

I don't know anything about NetBSD filesystems. Linux fdisk will make NetBSD partitions, but I don't know whether there's an mkfs for NetBSD.

I used to have /usr and /home on a separate physical drive, once, when all I had were smallish drives. I can't see any point in having lots of separate partitions otherwise. My boot partition is a relic of the days of BIOS that would only boot from the first 1024 cylinders.

"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it." (Stephen Leacock)

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D Yuniskis 16 years ago

Doesn't matter. I could make them all {Net,Open,Free}BSD "partitions"...

Having partitions is a double-edged sword. Put everything in / and if something corrupts that file system, you're hosed. OTOH, keep / small and effectively R/O, then you can be reasonably sure that you can mount it (single user) and, from there, troubleshoot problems you might have with other "not yet mounted" file systems.

You can also treat them as different file systems (with different characteristics).

(there's a long list of the "cans" as well as the "downsides")

When I first started sysadm'ing UN*X boxes (before the free eunices came into being), I found partitions to be a PITA. Over time, my attitude has flipped 180 on this issue...

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Fred Abse 16 years ago

A long time ago, I had dual boot Windows/Linux with 2 DOS partitions and

3 Linux partitions spread over two physical devices. But then, (ten years ago) I dumped DOS/Windows.

I can see the argument. However, the only time a filesystem got seriously corrupted, e2fsk did a sterling job of recovering it. Even told me which files it couldn't recover

"Eunices" - like it !

"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it." (Stephen Leacock)

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[Way OT] dieresis

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