Feb 09, 2026 Last reply: 3 months ago 1177 Replies
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Maciej Woźniak
So, which one of your precious experiments has convinced you that your really good clocks are really good, while GPS has really evil clocks?
Since you have NO arguments for your sick nonsense, you can't discuss the subject, you can only rave and spit when asked. How obvious, isn't it?
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Bill Sloman
But my stupidity consists of not flattering John Larkin as fulsomely as he would like.
I've never has access to atomic clocks, and I've certainly not experimented with them.
I did know about the
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back in 1971, probably from from something like "Phsyics Today".
The Global postioning system relies on pretty much the same sort of atomic clock (though a smaller and lighter version) and they won't be remotely evil. Putting them into orbit creates conditions that recreate the effects demonstrated in the Hafele-Keating experiment and on a larger scale, but the effects are predictable and can be corrected out.
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Maciej Woźniak
Oh, how can I see a lie in the above? A knight of The S*it of Einstein would never lie.
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Bill Sloman
This isn't actually true. John Larkin is making a tasteless joke, and not paying any attention to the fact that Thomas Heger might be silly enough to take him seriously.
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Bill Sloman
Special and general relativity both predict that clocks that have been exposed to different environments will record different elapsed times.
The differences aren't a errors - a result that reflects a defect in one or other of the clocks - but rather the result of the way the world works. You are perfectly entitled to dislike the way the world works, but ignoring it doesn't do you any good.
It's predicting differences, which aren't actually errors.
The problem is that you want to call the differences in the observed results "errors" which does suggest that something has gone wrong, and needs to be fixed. Reality isn't quite a simple as we'd like it to be and the global positioning system recognises this and corrects for the way the world actually works.
Pointing this out isn't in any way lying. Your denial of reality makes you want to claim that all this is lies and deception, and you are stupid enough to think that this is worth doing. This means that you are insane, but unlikely to become dangerously insane.
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Maciej Woźniak
Fortunately, we have GPS now, so we can be absolutely sure they really record the same times. Common sense has been warning the idiot.
Fortunately, even such a disgusting piece of lying s*it can't lie non stop, so sometimes you admit they are.
Sure, that's exactly what I was saying and you were denying. I've told you: being such a dishonest piece of s*it you're not going to admit that The S*it is not predicting any errors - and, of course, you fiercely denied it is not.
The problem is that they are errors. If you correct it it's an error. And the idiot has somehow imagined that his baseless scream "That's NOT AN ERROR!!! I'm telling you!!!" will be enough to prevent us from correcting. What an idiot.
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Liz Tuddenham
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Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 23.03.26 um 16:07 schrieb john larkin:
... unless they were fellow law-abiding citizens of east Asian descend in 1942, these were sushi-fied.
George Carlin put it better than I ever could:
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about halfway into the clip.
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It's from 1992, just exchange the date and move it 500 miles south-east! It seems, every time an American President is caught with his pants down, it's war time!
Every chunk of Monica news from the Oral Office resulted in a new attack wave to distract from it.
Just like the Epstein files.
Gerhard
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Bill Sloman
John Larkin feels that anyone who doesn't falter him has to be stupid.
Well, that doesn't make any sense at all. GPS is using atomic clocks that are essentially identical to the atomic clocks used in the Hafele- Keating experiment The clocks in the satellites are quite a bit more compact and will be ligher, but do work exactly the same way.
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and the clocks in orbit are exhibiting the same sort of behavior as Hafele-Keating clocks, though more of it because they are travelling higher and faster.
You don't seem to be able to understand the arguments, or even recognise when they are being made. Consistency may be a virtue, but being consistently wrong isn't.
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
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does suggest otherwise. Tropical cyclones are something of an exception
- they do seem to be getting more intense rather than more numerous, because they do depend on the existence of an appreciable area of ocean surface above 26.3 degrees Celcius, and once a cyclone has got underway it cools off that ocean surface. A bigger area of hot ocean fuels a more intense cyclone rather than several smaller ones.
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john larkin
Good catch.
And he's never figured out its vs it's.
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john larkin
It's easy to spot the evil ones. They wear black masks.
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john larkin
No, I think people who can't spell "flatter" are stupid.
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Paul B. Andersen
Den 24.03.2026 09:27, skrev Maciej Woźniak:
Right. You are obviously referring to this:
Clocks in the SVs and clocks on the ground run at the same rate and will stay in sync because the clocks in the SVs are adjusted down by the factor (1-4.4647E-10) to compensate for the relativistic effects predicted by GR.
That is as specified here:
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"The SV clock rates ... are offset to compensate for relativistic effects. The clock rates are offset by Δf/f = -4.4647E-10."
The fact that GPS works prove that GR's predictions are correct.
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john larkin
A little nonsense now and then Is cherished by the wisest men.
- Willy Wonka
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john larkin
What a nasty creep. I bet he would have signed up for Nazi Youth.
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Maciej Woźniak
A lie, of course, as usual, no - they have the divider set to 4 Cs periods more, what is obviously evil. Proper clocks shouldn't.
Fortunately, even such a disgusting piece of lying s*it can't lie non stop, so sometimes you admit that GPS clocks are corrected for error.
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Maciej Woźniak
You say the clocks of GPS are wearing black masks? Oh, that's explaining. A kind of logic as expected from a time dilation believer.
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Maciej Woźniak
No, the fact that GPS works proves that insane, inconsistent mumble of your idiot guru is not going to be fulfilled, even with a bunch of brainless fanatics trying to enforce it with their SI wannabe standard.
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Bill Sloman
Sadly you don't have a clue how GPS works, and while we can - and have - pointed you at fairly complete explanations - you are either incapable of following them or unwilling to put in the effort.
I respond to your posts and I'm not always as careful as I might be to put your "errors" in quotes.
That comes as a surprise. But you are a raving lunatic.
Einstein predicted differences. See section 4 of his 1905 paper, though that's confined to velocity dependent (Lorentzian) time dilation. The
1915 paper throws in gravitational time dilation.
But an ignorant twit can misunderstand practically any statement and decide that it is a lie.
Wrong.
No. The atomic clocks are doing exactly what they were designed to do, but the GPS system needs them to do something slightly different and the corrections provide the desired output.
And the idiot has somehow imagined
Baseless? It's a very soundly based assertion, but you are too ignorant to grasp what is actually going on.
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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