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A simple question, may I? An observer X is standing on the ground of Earth (anywhere). What is "the speed of Earth from the point of view of observer X" - according to the teachings of your bunch of idiots?

He was writing in 1905, when there weren't any clock accurate enough to have needed that kind of correction any place we could get to then.

As usual you are misrepresenting what I wrote. It would be unkind to claim that you had any malicious motive - you just didn't understand it well enough to realise that it didn't mean what you wanted it to mean.

You do go to a great deal of trouble to make it clear just how stupid you are.

Relative to what?

The "fixed stars" make it clear that the earth is rotating about its axis every day, and we know that it is in orbit around the sun.

We now know enough of the dynamics of our Galaxy to know that the Sun and its planets are in orbit around the centre of our Galaxy, and take about 225 million years to complete one circuit. That means that we are travelling at 230 km/s, approximately 1/1300th of the speed of light.

Our galaxy is on a collision path with the Andromeda galaxy and will probably hit it in 4.5 billion years. The speed along that path is about

I don't have any propriety interest in the astronomers who work this sort of stuff out, and they don't seem to be any kind of bunch of idiots. If you weren't some kind of idiot - or at least less woefully ill-informed, you would have been able to work this out for yourself.

Am Freitag000020, 20.03.2026 um 12:21 schrieb john larkin: ...

Sure, technicians and engineers need good understanding of the principles they use.

But engineers do not care that much about what physicists actually do or worry about.

Engineers worry about their machines and simply do not care, whether or not physics would allow them to work.

If it works, than it's ok. If it doesn't work, engineers try some modifications or something else.

But engineers do not care much about WHY the machines actually work. (They leave that part to physicsts.)

This very similar in medicine:

there exist one kind of doctors, who are happy, if the patient recovers.

the other type wants to know, how this happened and does not regard as a cure, if the underlying principles are unknown.

No, I'm actually an engineer from my education.

Physics is kind of hobby for me.

I had written a few things and the very first was my 'book':

But at least I have something to present.

TH

Am Freitag000020, 20.03.2026 um 12:28 schrieb john larkin:

This is a famous picture of one of the US POW-Camps in Germany:

As I see it, there were no tents, no beds, no heating and no fresh clothes.

Instead the German soldiers had to sit on bare ground with no shelter what ever.

And that enormous camp was just one of many US-camps.

And there is almost no information available about the further fate of these inmates.

About soviet camps it is known, that hardly 10% of inmates survived.

But at least those 10% returned home in the mid 1950th.

But what happened to the enormous number of POWs in US-camps?

TH

Am Freitag000020, 20.03.2026 um 13:06 schrieb J. J. Lodder:

Have a look at that:

TH

He was indeed. Too bad for him. And he predicted no clock corrections. And you're a piece of lying s*it too dumb even to keep its lies consistent. Too bad for you. And for your moronic church.

Fortunately, even such a such a disgusting piece of lying s*it as you are can't lie non stop, so you once admitted - they correct for errors on GPS. A clock error is a very classical phenomenon, well known by Galileo, Newton and any

From the point of view of the observer X.

I assume intention and some kind of 'bad physics', which is carefully crafted and force-feed to the defenceless general public.

It had imho started in the mid 19th century with people like Heaviside and Gibbs, who tried to tear down Maxwells theories, which were based on quaternions and 'aether'.

Since then science got deliberatly derailed.

This would require some kind of motivation. and for this there are numeorous options:

time travel real aliens transmutation scalar waves weapons mind control ...

This would have been, if found in real experiments, be regarded as way too dangerous, if common people and common enemies would know about.

So, there was a new profession created: so called 'bullshit artists'.

That was so much fun, that this profession was very attractive to sick minds (from which we have a lot) and common physics got bananas in the mean time.

So, today only very few resist, because that is actually dangerous and would not help the own career.

...

TH

When I was a 6 yo kid, I sat an a park bench in Middelburg, NL when 2 grandmas came, took the places next to me and continued their conversation in slow grandma style. I could follow that; not word by word but content-wise. My home town is located 30 Km south of Luxemburg and 30 Km east of the French border.

Gerhard

You really should do more work on your Dutch. The Dutch expression is 'alle hens aan dek', which is obviously an English borrowing, with the same meaning. (still generally understood, figuratively) Equivalent: 'alle zeilen bijzetten', set all sails, so do all we can.

Borrowings the other way round are also plenty. Like 'bottom' as meaning a whole ship, for example. Ships often had mixed crews.

I have been told that the English spoken by Elizatheth I wouldn't be fit for civilised society in modern England. Dutch, English, (and Cockney) were a lot closer then.

Yes. I happened to see an exposition recently dedicated to the cultural unity of Europe around year 1000,

Jan

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Changing subjecs again when you are shown to be wrong? And: Don't you read even your own references? ========================================= Die Lage in den Rheinwiesenlagern, die im Juli überwiegend an Frankreich übergeben wurden, war vor allem am Anfang tatsächlich katastrophal. Das besserte sich ab Ende Mai deutlich. Im Ergebnis gab es bei den 7,75 Millionen deutschen Kriegsgefangenen in westlicher Hand 1945/46 zwischen

In short, those mostly French-run camps had little excess mortality, if any, and probably none or less,

Jan

Speaking of bad science, this is a cool book:

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When entire divisions or entire armies surrender, it takes a while to sort things out.

Some married American women.

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It was presumably a transit camp. Most German POW's were eventually shipped off to America, where they were held in buildings built to the same standard as US Army camps. The survival rate of German POW in American prisoner of war camps was better than 99% - some claim 99.85%

A google search said otherwise.

The Russians had a long history of treating political prisoner badly too.

They were sent back to Europe in 1946, then spent up to three more years as laborers in France and the United Kingdom.

My post went on to answer the question for three different points of view - one the basis of our movement around the sun, around the centre our galaxy and the centre of the Andromeda galaxy - the nearest big galaxy.

Maciej Woźniak has snipped all that text - without marking the snip - and posted a nonsensical "observer X" as his preferred reference point.

The rule is not to assume malice when stupidity is a sufficient explanation, but it would take massive stupidity to be as silly as that.

I haven't used it much in recent years, pretty much only on Dutch tourists in Sydney, We left the Netherlands in 2011 but used to go back every year until the Covid epidemic. We did go back in 2022, but my wife died while we were over there, which killed off any motive I might have had to go back again.

Shakespeare was writing his plays for her and her court. Shakespearean English is a bit odd, but perfectly comprehensible, and I was expected to read it at school. When I lived England I was a subscriber of the Royal Shakespeare company and saw quite a few of his plays.

Stop lying once, stupid scum. You know very well what "from the point of view of observer X" means in your moronic religion.

He did predict that if pairs of clocks were separated, and one travelled at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light while going away and coming back, it would register that less time had elapsed than its static partner, and he did give a formula for the difference.

You are too dumb to properly understand what is being said, and seem to enjoy expressing your ignorance as rudely as possible

The aren't correcting for errors, they are adjusting the clocks to reflect physical reality.

Lorentzian and gravitational time dilation are physical processes, not "errors" and they certainly aren't "classical".

Either you don't know what "classical" means, or you are being deliberately obtuse.