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They had been shipped over to France and the UK in 1946 where they worked as laborers for the next three years.

And several people - not just me - have directed you to

If you had been paying attention you'd have known this already.

Naturally, but by the time the air gets to the building - which is where the rubble is - it is moving upwards rather than inwards and carries loose stuff falling off the building upwards and outwards.

The bulk of the building was below the roof.

Only if it fell all the way from the roof, and if it didn't slowed down the air currents feeding oxygen into the fires and replacing the hot air rising out of the fire.

If were a large piece of rubble, Stuff isn't going to fall off the building until the structural steel embedded in the concrete has got hot enough to lose it's structural integrity (and probably start burning to iron oxide).

But they aren't hot when they hit the reinforced concrete. A burning building doesn't disintegrate in a way that produces massive projectiles designed to penetrate cold reinforced concrete.

In your not-all-that-well-inforned opinion.

Only if you ignore most of the evidence.

The actual facts have been looked into at length

The post you are ostensibly responding to included this link.

It is quite detailed, and seems to suggest that the towers collapsed one floor at a time, so most the debris fell one floor and provoked the collapse of the next floor, rather than falling unimpeded. Some of the outer columns peeled off and fell outwards, hitting adjacent buildings on the way down.

Nobody seem to have felt the need to invoke external forces to explain what happened.

You, on the other hand, are a stupid uneducated religious maniac, so apart of screaming that whoever is disagreeing with you is a stupid uneducated crank and casting other s*it on him you're able to do nothing.

Indeed, it's not. Even such a disgusting piece of lying s*it can't lie non stop, so now you admit it's not. Your previous answer for the above was

Too bad you're too dumb to lie consequently, isn't it, poor stupid scum?

Well, as seen above you're calling it the same. Sometimes. Unfortunately, if we correct it it is an error - even such an idiot can understand that.

If we didn't correct - the clocks would elapse different times. As it is in the description of your dilation absurd. We corrected - and they don't. No dilation, sorry, poor stupid scum. Just a clock error.

Yeah, the laws of your moronic physics depend on our choices. No "laws of nature" ever existed, your religion introduced them to improve our obedience and make our choices "better".

Why do you think it is called a "black hole"? No light can get out of it.

If it could, it couldn't get to us - there's a great dealof dust in the way. The images we've got are derived from radio-telescope observations.

You clearly don't. What was being imaged was the accretion disk around the blank hole. There's a lot of mass orbiting around it. The orbital speed for a black hole is quite high. Astronomers have detected orbiting clumps of gas moving at about 30% of the speed of light.

Yes. You don't know what you are talking about. Couldn't be simpler.

You may find it comforting to think that. I've just shown you up a dim twit. I don't usually respond to people I disagree with by calling them stupid uneducated cranks - few of them are and most of that small group shows signs of being willing to get better educated if you talk to them nicely. You do seem to be an obnoxious exception.

Actually the first transportable one.

That 'round the world' thing was just a demonstration for publicity. They also did a less publicized 'straight up in the same place' demonstration. (that also confirmed general relativity)

Their real business was visiting standards labs world wide to synchronise their atomic clocks. [1] (correcting for relativistic effects of flight of course) It had practical uses, in the Apolla program for example.

These days a few centimeter eight difference is enough, or even a few mm for atoms inside a clock,

Jan

It's cool to trigger an oscilloscope from one atomic clock and look at the rise of another one at, say, 5 ns/div. That won't move all day.

Even a surplus rubidium won't change visibly in an hour.

But yes, GPS frequency standards are dirt cheap now.

DVMs have got very good too, not many PPMs drift in a year.

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Anyway, I've talked to dosens of arrogant, incompetent idiots. They're never nice to anyone who can show them they're arrogant, incompetent idiots.

Maciej says "Bill is stupid" and Bill says "Maciej is stupid" and you are both right.

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We boiled them and ate them, except in Texas they bbq'd.

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There's always going to be somebody who doesn't believe the official narrative of 9/11.

That makes sense, because there isn't.

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Physicists are great. They have interesting problems, need help with the electronics, and often have a lot of money to spend.

If the physics is wrong, it won't work.

Duh.

Nobody can see all the way down the abstraction stack, not even physicists. They don't know where the universe came from or how it actually works.

Both engineers and physicists work with whatever thay can get.

The thing I like about desiging electronics is the many things it involves, and the fact that we can be done in months and move on to something else that's interesting.

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The Americans had journalists and cartoonists embedded with the troops.

Did the Germans or Japanese do anything like that?

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So, which one of your precious experiments have convinced you that your really good clocks are really good, while GPS has really evil clocks?

Any time you'd like to post something that makes sense, we're ready.

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Your English language skills aren't as good as the might be.

You do seem to be able read practically everything in way that lets you believe you are being lied to. Not being able follow simple logic may make that easier for you.

So they were nice to you? I run into very few arrogant incompetent idiots in real life. There aren't all that many around, at least not o the circles in which I move.

I've dealt with a few smart people who have championed impractical scheme, and that can be a challenge.

John Larkin thinks that anybody who doesn't bother to flatter him is stupid. He rather over-estimates the advantage that can be had from flattering him, and under-estimates the disadvantages that can flow from endorsing his sillier ideas.