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Bill Sloman
You can assure me as much as you like, but you don't strike me as having a clue about what you are talking about.
Climate isn't remotely local. When the El Nino and La Nina states show up, they are most clearly visible in the ocean surface temperatures in the Pacific around the equator. They change the rainfall patterns in Eastern Australia. Weather is about moving heat from the equator towards the poles, and it ties into ocean currents that do the same job. We can see the ones flowing on the surface. The deep currents that handle the return flow are now being documented by the Argo Buoy program, but there are only a couple of thousand of them and a great deal of ocean.
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It affects the local weather - urban heat island. Climate is a much larger scale effect.
My exhalations are trivial. The tons of aviation fuel that got burnt when I flew from Australian to Europe and back are less trivial.
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knew better than that. It took about a century for people to assemble the data that proved he was right.
It isn't "the ground" that evaporates most of the water, but the surfaces of the oceans. It falls as rain (or snow) on the land surfaces.
The average temperatures of that sea surface has gone up by a bit more than 1 degree Celcius since the start of the industrial revolution, and that means that oceans evaporate about 10% more water now than they did back then.
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Bill Sloman
So you personally admit to being an ignorant half-wit.
That is totally insane. The effects you think you are seeing are caused by continental drift. The continents are less dense rocks that float on the denser crust. The molten earth under the crust is heated by radiative decay, and is stirred by convection currents that drag the continents around.
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The Australian continental plate is going north at 6.9cm per year.
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Ross Finlayson
Actually it's a simple sort of consequence, after axiomless natural deduction making axiomless geometry, since "the only constant is change", then as with regards to "geometry is motion".
Actually it's a simple sort of consequence, ..., in a continuum mechanics.
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Maciej Woźniak
Actually - no it is not.
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Ross Finlayson
Sounds like a broken record.
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J. J. Lodder
Navigation sats have no cesium clocks to begin with. They use less accurate ones (rubidium and/or hydrogen) that are steered to agree with the more accurate master clocks on the ground, at USNO for example.
Yes, nice experiment,
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J. J. Lodder
There really is no need to need to tell me where Doggerland is and was.
Certainly.
Nobody still there did well. The run-up of the tsunamis was up to 25 meter in Scotland. Those tsunamis had nothing to do with sea level rise. (and they couldn't have been forseen, even today) Once known about, the Norwegians did a thorough investigation to make sure that the three of them were all there are going to be. (before starting their oil exploitation)
Quite possible, but the distribution of the population in Britain at the time isn't really well known, so you can invent percentages to suit. Oxfordians wouldn't have had a problem.
Pure fantasy on your part. If you would want to acquire some more realistic knowledge you might want to have a look at:
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(open source) which is based on real measurements rather than fantasy.
Conclusion: there are no episodes of catastrophis sea level rise in the Early Neolithc. (in the North Sea, so nowhere else) Measured sea level rise is steady, and of order of 10 mm/year. (comparable to what is measured nowadays)
The sources of the Noachian story are well known, (Ur, Gilgamesh etc.)
BTW, your habit of dishing up common knowledge as if it is brilliant discovery on your part is not conductive to informed discussion.
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Bill Sloman
Machinists all know about gauge blocks (Johanssen blocks). but ours all measuring gear tacked onto the their lathes - mostly Heidenhain optical systems good to about a micron. The foreman had a Sanyo magentic system where you didn't need to blow cutting fluid out of the sensing head.
Rubbish. At one point I knew the wavelength of the He-Neon line used in laser interferometers to ten decimal places. I hadn't intended to learn it, but I found myself looking it up a lot and eventually it stuck.,
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Bill Sloman
Since I tend to back it up with Wikipedia references, it's hard to see how you can imagine that I'm claiming it as a brilliant personal discovery.
The problem is more that you don't to know nearly as much as you seem to imagine, and don't like being shown up for posting half-baked ignorance.
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J. J. Lodder
Not surprising. It is the most commonly used secondary meter standard,
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J. J. Lodder
See? You are doing it again,
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Bill Sloman
Doing what again? The trouble with posing as an expert in obscure subjects is that every now and then you run into somebody who has had to become even more expert in your narrow field than you are. It doesn't happen often, but it pays to keep in mind that they can pop out of the oddest corners of the user-group universe.
I happen to know the geologist who mapped the Arabian plate - the first complete continental plate to be mapped (mainly because it is the smallest). He married my wife's first Dutch graduate student (before he did the plate mapping) and we got progress reports from time to time. Nice people with good kids who all now speak Danish, which didn't seem to worry the Dutch grandparents.
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J. J. Lodder
And again. You may get away with posing as a superior know it all in sed, (based second hand wikipedia regurgitation) but it doesn't work here in spr.
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Liz Tuddenham
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I'm so glad I'm not an expert and don't feel I have to pose as one.
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john larkin
This is cool. My little speculation about spherical fields has generated 478 posts in just s.e.d., some hundreds of lines long, most of which are childish flames.
John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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john larkin
This is cool. My little speculation about spherical fields has generated 478 posts in just s.e.d., some hundreds of lines long, most of which are childish flames.
John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics
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Bill Sloman
It does seem to work in spr, based on the twaddle that has been posted in this thread.
I'm not regurgitating Wikipedia, but rather using it as a easily accessible source of information that I've got from other sources, mostly books. I'm not posing as a know it all - if you post about a subject that I don't know much about (and don't make gross mistakes) I'm most unlikely to post a critical comment.
It's quite possible (and in fact pretty likely) that there are subjects where you do know a lot more than I do, and some of what you know may even be correct.
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Bill Sloman
Sci.physics.relativity does seem to have a lot of childish flamers.
It wasn't you little speculation that generated all the posts but your inadvertent cross-posting to sci.physics.relativity some way down the thread, which attracted some people who seem to know even less about real science than you do (improbable though that is - but apparently possible).
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Thomas Heger
But time must be a LOCAL parameter ONLY!
It is total bunk to assume, that an 'external' clock would exist, which synchronizes everything in the universe.
Such an 'external clock' would violate two essential principles:
a)it would be 'outside' the universe, but the universe has no outside.
b) such a clock would require means, which would allow that 'master clock' to adjust all local clocks. But there ain't anything, which would allow a 'master clock' to interfere with what is happening very far away.
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