US imperialists and torque drivers

Didn't they go the way of the poundal?

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Sounds like a German attack aircraft.

John

currently re-reading "The First World War: A Complete History" by Martin Gilbert. Good book, terrible war.

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Yup. My mum's dad, Murdo Nicolson, joined up on the first day of the war and spent over 3 years on the Western Front with the Royal Winnipeg Rifles. He was in almost all of the major Canadian battles--St. Julien, the Somme, Passchendaele, Vimy Ridge, and so on, and by the end was one of only about 50 left from the original complement of 1000 or so men in his battalion. Here's a story about him that I ran across in a book:

He lived to be 87, so I knew him pretty well. He almost never talked about the war.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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atleast ~1bar/1atm/~100kpa =3D normal airpressure is more sensible round numbers that 14.696psi

atm like celcius and Fahrenheit is based on some random zero point for physics that doesn't make much sense

pascal is just the SI unit N/m^2 so calculations make sense

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Thanks Phil, the theorist profs who 'taught' me E&M had no feel either... or if they did never communicated it to me.

I'm 'stuck' with epsilon-sub zero 8.8x10**-12... I need an equation to figure out the units.

which is a nice handy size, but the Gaussian unit

Attograafed monster cable... who you gonna get to sign it?. :^) George H.

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Quoted: __ In this very different usage the meter term represents the distance traveled or displacement in the direction of the force, and not the perpendicular distance from a fulcrum as it does when used to express torque.

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Instead of perpendicular pressure against a fulcrum, it is linear displacement distance in the direction of the force.

Calling it a "unit of torque" is a misnomer.

It is a "moment of torque", which relies on a unit of force and a unit of measure to derive and define the moment of torque applied to a fulcrum. Is that "rotational force" Yes, but the term allows it to be defined by using a fixed arm length.

It is linear too. 12 inch pounds (pounds inch) is one foot pound (pounds feet). It also works on the force measure. 16 ounce inches is the same as one pound inch, with the difference being that it simply sounds odd to declare "one pound inch" when "16 ounce inches" sounds a lot more precise.

We could use it as other measures too, but we don't.

Heck, add a 'per second' and it becomes velocity, and add a 'per second per second' and it becomes acceleration, though the linear measure is all one needs for that.

I already explained why.

Absolutely incorrect.

Yeah, I read that. You are wrong.

BOTH involve motion. The direction the force is applied is what changes.

Use some common sense. If you are at sea level when you start, the air already in the tube is at that pressure. Since ANY bicycle pump gauge is going to state ZERO pounds at that point, I'd say that such a device NEVER uses "absolute" pressure. Everything will always be relative to the standard pressure at the location the pump (and gauge) device is in.

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torque does not imply motion it is just force at the end of an arm, it doesn't have to move for it to be energy something has to move

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You are correct. It does not have to move and will not if the point to which the force is applied is fixed. Many times they are not, but there are times when motion is a factor for the distance of a small measure. A force transducer moves a certain amount, then stops, based on the force placed against its "platen". That movement could be in the form of mere microns in distance, but there was movement, and a greater force imposes a larger movement over the operating range of the transducer. It defines it, in fact, which is why one acquires the "size" one needs for the task being performed.

Force transducers oriented to be used as weight scales are ratioed (is that a term?) by way of an arm, a fixed fulcrum, and a pressure point along the length of the arm. The location of the pressure point determines the ratio of the pressure applied to the force transducer. Yep. At the "moment" of measurement nothing is moving.

Even on a rotating shaft, the "measure" is an instantaneous value as if the shaft (or fulcrum) was/were fixed. This is why it is called a "moment of torque". It is like having the meter attached to it while it spins. Of course the shaft diameter can be the entire torque arm, or there can be a physical arm, or tooth, or other protrusion. The calibrated devices and agreed upon science and industry terminology gives us references we can become "familiar with" firsthand and have "a feel for".

Folks who have actually sheared the thread off various threaded holes or nuts base materials have a more intimate knowledge of where "torque" plays into fastener topics.

Things move as torque interplays with what it is applied against usually.

The other use of the term seems archaic (likely) (do we not use joules?) and seems to point at acceleration rate or force of acceleration or such.

An easy way to remember it is 8.854 pF/m.

Yeah thanks, I knew there was a pF hidding in there someplace.

George H.

Plain wrong.

Newton-cm is heresy. The centimeter doesn't exist in SI.

Meters, millimeters, micrometers, nanometers.

None of thet deci, deka, hecto stuff they used to torture school kids with.

Nothing wrong with mm.Hg. (AKA Torr). I think the high vacuum guys still use those. I remember 10^-7 torr being a good CRT vacuum. Ol' Torricelli has been largely forgotten.

Nah! Gallons.

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