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Thank so much Jeff. Your comment is really helpful for engineering part and knowledge.
Joey Byeongyeop Lee wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
CUT You must be a lousy spammer, and a krook too....
I would like to keep most of my medical records private. There is far too many personal notes that would need to be edited out. You also didn't specify why you want to see my records. I fail to see how it will benefit either of us.
Please note that there are plenty of "personal health history" programs and apps available for every known computer system. My system is rather crude compared to these.
There's also nothing really thrilling about my records. It's a mix of mostly spreadsheets and ascii text lists. The instruments used are rather commonplace. Omron BP meter, Oxi-Go Pulse Oximeter, digital bathroom scale, and Cholestrak HDL and Total cholesterol test kit. It would be nice to automate all the data collection, but since I don't record data every day, it's not really necessary.
You might be amused by this graph: It's a record of my prostate specific antogen test results versus time. Think of each data point as $60. The large spike around Feb
2007 was caused by a kidney stone and can be ignored. Note the rising trend in PSA results over time. It was obvious that I would need to do something fast. When I presented this graph to my urologist, he indicated that he didn't know what to do with it because none of his patients ever kept track with such detail. So much for using collected data to improve medical decisions.In spreadsheet format, 5 years of data and graphs is about 100KBytes. The entire 12 year collection, with notes, imbedded test results, and notes is about 8MB, most of which are JPG's and PDF's of various documents. However, if you include my copies of various medical imaging results (xrays, CAT scans, MRI, blood test, etc), it fills about 8 CD's.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Here's a finger cuff BP meter; I tried one of these once and was not impressed. I know what my BP should be under various conditions and this finger thing didn't even come close. The wrist type BP meters were a little better, but still inaccurate. The upper arm and leg type pressure cuffs seem to work best.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Chuckle. I measure my BP in 4 different locations. Home, my office, the doctors office, and the local CVS pharmacy. Oddly, the numbers are just fine everywhere except at home, where they tend to be on the high side. The difference is that I'm at about
1000ft elevation at home, while the others are at sea level. Omron claims that it shouldn't happen, but I have 3 BP meters that all do the same thing. I've done my own calibration by compressing a liquid bladder. I can't testify for its absolute accuracy, but the relative readings for all my various devices were fairly close.Here's a few years of my BP measurements. The black lines are running averages, while the colored lines are the original data. You need to have a fairly long history of BP readings to get any kind of useful data. A few points here and there are meaningless. Also, it's really difficult to see if things are getting better in the short term, when the individual data points show -50% to
+50% excursions.
Exercise seems to be the only thing that works for me. I've juggled my diet and experimented with beta blockers and ace inhibitors, but exercise is what works best. I'm currently on beta blockers, which doesn't really lower my BP, but does put an upper limit on how high it can climb during exertion. This has become a problem with some of my activities (diving and flying), but I'm otherwise unaffected as long as I don't push too hard. Forget about low sodium diets:
Well, if you need some entertainment, try hyperventilation. Your BP will drop like a rock. Keep going, and your BP will drop enough for you to pass out. The best way is through "ohmmmmmming" during meditation. All you're doing is removing most of the CO2 from your blood, so that the heart thinks it doesn't have to work so hard and slows down.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Joey Byeongyeop Lee schrieb:
as blood pressure, heartbeat frequency and body temperature if we wear it as bracelet or watch. It has only alarm function with LED and sends the data to private smart phone or tablet PC daily. And then we could monitor and keep on eyes on our health condition daily.
Hello,
this is the wrong place to measure a correct body temperature. The right place would be under the arm, in the mouth, in the ear.
Bye
During part of my testing I used the BP machine at the Sam's club, then they brought in a new machine. Not good to change equipment in mid test!
Would not your pressure bladder ALSO be affected by the the change in elevation? Knowing your attention to detail, you probably calulated that out :-)
I got an Omron, this model,
That's my point! If I "ohm" my blood pressure down to 110/70, so what, if it is 140/85 when I'm watching Little house on the Prairie? I'm thing the maybe this guy might have an idea with 24/7 BP monitoring. Throw out some highs and lows, get an average and then decide IF* it needs lowering, then make BP lowering attempts and see what the ave does. I think I'll go for a walk. Mikek
There seems to be kind of a pattern that repeats roughly every 29.5 days. Hmm.
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bout my new idea using a smart device.
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ition daily such as blood pressure, heartbeat frequency and body temperatur e if we wear it as bracelet or watch. It has only alarm function with LED a nd sends the data to private smart phone or tablet PC daily. And then we co uld monitor and keep on eyes on our health condition daily.
as ipad, iphone? measuring value and transfer the data to smart device dai ly. And some apps make the graph or valuable form using a transfered data.
Writing aps for the 'smart phones' is the way to go. However, one must be careful because the development process for making 'approved' medical instrumentation goes through a lot of scrutiny. That said, some enterprising ap writer wrote an 'aid to the blind' where the phone views for the blind person and actually identifies what it sees. No idea how effective, but contact your local blind assistance office and they may be able to describe, or show you, the ap.
LOL :-) To bad it's not really funny.
Some might suggest you're the engineer type. :-) Have you figured out how to raise your HDL?
itement condition and quiet condition. I think engineering skill and advanc ed technology is really needed.
wow, I'm 67 and mine's 110/70 I always thought it was too low. I do have a problem when measuring real-time, because the brain starts 'fiddling' with the measurement, like in bio-feedback.
Is that 'accuracy' ? Aren't these BP readings just as repeatable, just different?
That's easy. I'm a werewolf. Some of my old usenet postings on the topic:
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
No. By accuracy, I mean being able to get a valid reading within "reasonable" limits, which I consider about +/-10mm of mercury. As I recall the finger cuff was about 30mm high and the wrist cuff was maybe 25mm high. My three other Omron arm cuff machines all read within about 10mm of each other for sequential tests. However, all this is high unscientific and not very repeatable. One of my Omron BP meters (HEM-775) has a provision for averaging 3 sequential readings. I guess the logic is that the errors can go in random directions, resulting in a somewhat more accurate average. That's also the logic behind my long term graph.
If you need some entertainment, run a BP test every 30 mins or so for a day. I would have expected a fairly smooth curve since I guessed that my BP wasn't going to make any radical changes throughout the day. That was totally wrong since popping pills, exercise, irritating email, and customer crisis problems tended to produce radical excursions in BP. What it does show is how much my BP will vary throughout the day. I may do it again, as there's quite a bit that can be deduced from the numbers (except for the actual BP).
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Like this?
Should have used the 558. He would have had three spares. :)
I've found that it's not the machine that causes variations. It's the BP cuff. If you bring your own BP arm cuff and use it instead of whatever they provide, you'll get more repeatable readings. I tried this experiment on a variety of BP meters and it worked fairly well.
Nope. It's a muddle. At sea level, air pressure averages about
760mmHG. At 1000ft, it would be 733mm, a difference of 27mm, which is about the error that I was seeing. Since the device apparently reads relative pressure, I would have expected my BP readings to increase with altitude. Instead, my BP went down with increasing altitude. I should probably investigate further, but the stress would probably raise my blood pressure. Perhaps I'm build backwards?
I made some points with my GP when I supplied him with difficult to find mercury for his instrument.
Again, think average BP. High blood pressure causes all kinds of wear and tear on the internal organs and plumbing. It's all a question of how long you can keep the BP down. A few short moments every day doing meditation isn't going to help much.
Yep. That's roughly what I was doing with the graphs. However, you don't need continuous monitoring to do that. Also, do NOT throw out the radical excursions in BP. Before I had a triple bypass operation in 2001, my BP showed a few such excursions. I thought it was a bad BP meter, but it turned out to be a classic symptom of blocked arteries.
I do about 2 miles per day during the week, and about 4 miles per day on weekends. The basic idea is to keep the elevate the heart rate for an extended period. Short bursts don't do anything useful. Elevate the pulse rate and keep it there for as long as possible, which means don't stop (although you can slow down a little), and do it regularly. I don't know if it really does any good, but since I'm still alive 12 years later, I must be doing something right.
There are plenty of those studies available. Mostly, they're wrapped around the long term effects of various overpriced drugs such as statins. Bug me if you want horror stories and clues on how to filter all the "information". One nice thing about experiencing a cardiac event is most survivors will clean up their act with a lifestyle change. The problem is that they usually use death as an indication of failure, and rarely measure "quality of life". My concern is not to live longer, but rather to not be miserable during my declining years. I'm not sure that micro managing one's health with continuous monitoring is the correct approach.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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