Suggestion - dc / dc converter 500 - 1000W

Jul 24, 2016 6 Replies

Hi. I have played around lead alum battery from John Bedini and i must say i am quite exited about all this. Fast charging ( 12V / 85Ah under 45 minutes ), you can discharge it to almost 0V etc. Anyhow, there is bunch info on this on the net. Really good battery, with "small" problem.



The standard voltage of fully charged battery is around 11.5 to 12,5 V so when i hook up some standard DC/AC converter i can not start it.



The battery has almost the same current as the lead acid battery ( maybe some 10 - 15 % drop ) but voltage is a bit lower. I test is with 500W motor and it works like it should. There is just this problem with voltage...



So i need to find a way how to connect this battery to some AC device. The devices that am planning to use with this setup are max 200W, so this battery setup should be enough for whole day run...



The battery is charged from solar panel and i will use 2x 12/125Ah.



Question:



- what should i use to step up the voltage, some dc/dc converter ?



- if so, how much would one 500W dc/dc converter cost ?



Any idea is more then welcome !


I'd probably try hacking the undervoltage lockout on the inverter, but don't set it too low or you might start a fire.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I can not add extra cell because its sealed truck car battery.

12V / 135Ah

----------------------- I was thinking on hacking the DC/AC converter but i don't have enough knowledge to do that. Beside, there is no schematics on the converter. It's some Chinese stuff (1500W / 3000W peak ).

--------------- If i would go with dc/dc converter ( let's say some 500W ), how can i limit the battery current ? As far as i know, such converters have some max input current value and it's most always under 20A.

P = U * I So I = P / U

This means that at 12.5 volt a 500 Watt converter is going to draw 40A or more.

No way you are going to limit that to 20A, unless the converter has an output power of 500 Chinese Watts. Chinese Watts are a lot less power than SI Watts. That is how they spec the 1500W/3000W Peak things.

Running one SMPS off another isn't necessarily easy, especially if the second one (your inverter) expects a super-low-resistance source, i.e. a big lead-acid battery.

They can interact in strange ways, including oscillating. At your power level, oscillating switchers would be seriously bad news, like maybe burning your house down or spraying you with boiling acid. (I'm not a high power SMPS guy myself, but believe me, they're no joke.)

Perhaps you could find a better quality used unit on eBay that has schematics available?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

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