Samsung builds the world's highest-resolution phone camera sensor: 200 MP

Samsung builds a super resolution phone camera sensor:

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Interesting is the 'pixel binning' to get better low light performance.

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Jan Panteltje
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On a sunny day (Fri, 3 Sep 2021 07:31:58 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe snipped-for-privacy@message.header wrote in <sgsj1d$tdu$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Well, do not have the chips's dataheet, but here is their press release:

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On a sunny day (Fri, 3 Sep 2021 08:05:38 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe snipped-for-privacy@message.header wrote in <sgsl0h$98i$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Well megapixels is directly related to resolution

1M pixels could be 1000 x 1000 pixels (for example) or 2000 x 500, etc So the more pixels the more resolution. This leaves out the 3 pixels RGB trio, so divide by 3 perhaps. The amount of pixels has nothing to do with frame-rate.

Lots of pixels is nice, on my Xiaomi I can select in photo mode 48Mp, if I take a picture in that mode I can zoom in to the finest detail in the resulting picture, is cool, use it a lot.

It also has a slow video mode where the framerate is higher during recording, so you record more pictures per unit of time (higher framerate) and still get a smooth video playback of fast events,

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Jan Panteltje

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** The LCD sensor is one thing, the lens in front of it another.

Most mobile phones have "very ordinary" non focusing lenses. While even pocket digital cameras have vastly better ones. My $100 Canon has an excellent, motor driven lens with only a 12MP LCD sensor. In decent light, pic quality is fantastic.

It even has an optical viewfinder that zooms for daylight stuff.

My old Pentax KX sits in a box ......

...... Phil

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On a sunny day (Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:05:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Yes, I have 2 Canon cameras, very good indeed, still use one every now and then, but last year I bought the cheapest Xiaomi smartphone and expected no high quality pictures... However I am really impressed with it.

Things are moving the way as everybody and their cat seems to have a smartphone to ever better smartphone cameras, I have no idea how those guys do the lenses, but they are good.

Only problem is that my Canons use a simple SDcard I can plug into the laptop in seconds, can edit and upload to the net and for the Xiaomi I need to USB connect and run funny scripts to get a picture of it... Removing the micro (nano?) card is a no-no..

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** I know someone with a iphone - takes good pics too. But that cos waaaaay more than $100.

tOnly problem is that my Canons use a simple SDcard I can plug into the laptop in seconds, can edit and upload to the net

** I just use a USB cable and Bob's you uncle .....

..... Phil

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John Doe snipped-for-privacy@message.header wrote in news:sgsl0h$98i$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

That's only because you ain't real bright, boy.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

On a sunny day (Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:47:00 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil Allison snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Yes, way overpriced if you ask me, I never had an apple product. I do not like their latest looking for hashes of offensive pictures you may have on your phone. More and more big brothel.

True, needs to install 'adb' on your linux computer..

On xiaomi select settings aditional settings developer options usb debugging

fie transfer

on raspi95 raspi95: ~ # adb devices List of devices attached

92602270 device

adb push test.jpg /sdcard/dcim/camera/

adb pull /sdcard/dcim/camera/IMG_20200421_205058.jpg ./

start an adb shell: adb shell raspi95: ~ # adb shell

to exit adb sheel: willow:/ $ exit raspi95: ~ #

... :-)

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Jan Panteltje

Seems like gross overkill for a handheld phone. Enormous files.

My oldish Samsung 10 can do 16MP, way more pix than are useful.

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jlarkin

On a sunny day (Fri, 03 Sep 2021 07:35:49 -0700) it happened snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I am a long time photographer. Anyways, take a pic in that high resolution of some board,

Then look a the picture and scroll to every detail in it,

I took a pic of a far way insect in my garden, could hardly see it, kept the phone steady against the window glass. Easy to find and identify it in the picture. We had an invasion of nice butterflies here part 2 weeks.

Now we have an invasion of snails.... Have to watch where you step.

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Jan Panteltje

That's one issue: hand-held phones aren't very steady. I suppose a bit of gyro-assisted DSP could help some, but steadiness is still a limit on resolution. I reduce most pics to around 1Kx1K anyhow.

We have our seasonal attack butterflies. I think the skunks and squirrels eat the snails... haven't seen many lately.

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John Larkin

Les escargots, c'est bon avec du beurre à l´ail.

Jeroen Belleman

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Jeroen Belleman

No foolin. I have fond memories of Roger la Grenouille on the left bank. It's impossible to get fresh snails here.

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John Larkin

Not just enormous files, wasted data space. At this sensor size anything over 12 megapixels is a waste of data space. 12 is overkill actually, 5 is fine but OK, let it be 12 (my zoom camera has 12 but a larger, 2/3" sensor and the pixels are still too small). The camera makers know that of course; I don't know why they go to these pixel counts, either there is some technological problem just making the pixels larger instead of concatenating neighbour pixels or they do it just because they have been told so by the marketeers. Or both.

More like markettering though, e.g. Sony have a camera with a 36x24 mm sensor which has < 20 MP, may be 12, don't remember now, it is unbelievably fast (a guy in France posts bird photos made with one of these in the darkest forests, no other sensor could do what his does).

====================================================== Dimiter Popoff, TGI

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Dimiter_Popoff

Is it a phone, a camera, or just a toy that's handy for tracking and monitoring?

It's not like you can pick and choose . . . .

I wish they'd just make up their minds.

RL

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snipped-for-privacy@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

What a strange and stupid thing to say.

Whoopie doo-ish... child-ish.

Retarded Opinion-ish.

You show signs of not even knowing what the word 'useful' means.

What strange creatures stupid, self retarded Trumpanzee idiots are.

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Dimiter_Popoff snipped-for-privacy@tgi-sci.com wrote in news:sgtv55$kag$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

You are obviously 100% clueless about what image capture is all about. Not to mention image stabilization. So just make shit up. Real cute. Almost as bad as Trump.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Come to Washington, and do the Cape Alava hike; snails from the marsh on the beach approach can be boiled in Pacific seawater at the shore.

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whit3rd

LOL, clueless, yeah. I have lost count of the graphics controllers I have designed and all the image processing I have written my dear, think before you post. And no, image stabilization has rarely anything to do with sensor resolution or anything in the sensor, it is typically done within the lens, mechanically, based on acceleration sensors in the camera.

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