Re: UK farmers count cost as heatwave kills fruit and vegetable crops

Aug 03, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 7 Replies
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> Fears of future threats to food security if more extreme heat caused by climate crisis hits production


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> > Severe drought affecting Europe continues to worsen with 45% of the territory exposed to warning levels and 13% under alert
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> > Since the surrounding oceans are dead and dying from overheating and acidity, they won't be able to turn to them for sustenance either.
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> > etc etc etc...
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> > This is always how it starts. By the time people realize they have a serious problem, it's too massive and too late.
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> blah blah blah fake
> start to study coronary mass ejections, as advised

It's coronal not coronary. But I remain impressed with your erudition.


and stop your spam
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> Present saunas in Africa, Europe are due to fluctuations in solar activity, represented
> by Short-Term Climate Changes
> due to coronary mass ejections\
> clearing the sky from microdroplets of water vapor
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> Learn the mass of a single coronary ejection first

You've already been told several times and linked several times to what you think are sources of your misinformation, and they don't agree with you one bit- saying the exact opposite actually.

I put it on the mass media, the individual acing alone is powerless. The BIG problem is media is mostly funded by big corporate polluters, so they have to tow the line if they expect to stay in business. It's time to use the media to scare the hell out of the public. Let them know in no uncertain terms the party is over and it's time to get serious. Government can flood the media with PSA's to that effect. The rest of what needs to be done will take care of itself. Obstructionists like Manchin and Sinema types will be out of office.

A bunch of dead links and some braindead non-English speaking student crap...not impressed.

I disagree. I'm not intent on changing the world -- but, if I can change (have an impact on) the 6 ft around me, then that's a start. Certainly more than the deniers are doing!

The solution won't come from old-folks; they are too set in their ways and too eager to maintain their level of comfort. They also tend to be relative islands, socially -- with very little power to impact their peers.

OTOH, younger people are more social/cliquish. And, have more of a stake in the outcome. If motivated, they may end up changing policy and *imposing* it on the old folks -- pushing for higher taxes on MILES DRIVEN, regardless of technology; dropping out of the consumer culture (they are already avoiding home ownership, delaying marriage/child bearing, etc.) or forcing it to adapt to *their* desires... old folks have already *done* their consuming!

You're assuming gummit is benevolent and not beholding to the same interests that you claim drive the media. Anything gummit related/initiated (in the US) is always a watered down compromise; too many special interests that have to be accommodated (look at the "food pyramid"; really? that's the "best science"??)

The good news is everyone dies. So, all the scheming amounts to naught.

But, your descendants' view of you is unalterable (by you) once you're feeding the worms!

Only if your native language is not *ENGLISH* *AND* you are as thick as two short planks. This crap you are quoting is utter *BULLSHIT*.

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CME's only affect the aurora at high latitudes. It takes a really hefty one for there to be one visible from my UK latitude of 53 N. There was an aurora prediction for last Saturday but it came to nothing.

That is far too late to play any part in the insanely hot conditions which were largely caused by a weather system becoming trapped in such a way as to put hot saharan air on top of the UK for a couple of days.

We had exactly the right combination of thin high cloud to let 90% of the sunlight in and stop 80% of thermal long wave radiation escaping so that it got hotter with each successive day culminating in the previous national record temperatures being broken over a wide area in the UK. It even went cloudy at a lower level after dusk trapping more heat in but quickly burned off again shortly after sunrise.

I have never seen anything like it - large established trees have had their leaves fried to a crisp on the sun facing side and many have dropped them still green and fruit tress also dropped immature fruit.

Combining had to stop at lunchtime because the grain was too hot and dry to handle with the machinery. Roads also melted in the afternoons. Trains ground to a standstill as the tracks buckled. They shut the East Coast mainline completely on the hottest day.

The drought is beginning to bite in London and the SE now.

+1

Pear trees are absolutely loving this weather. Never seen even half this many fruit.

I have a Japanese (nashi) pear tree which usually struggles a bit in North Yorkshire but this year it is doing nicely. Last year it did OK despite a late frost which annihilated the apple blossom. We got no more than a dozen apples from a tree which normally yields 400kg.

That has been dropping fruit in the drought but still has plenty on it.

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